The Visitor!
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- JonesyAZ
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The Visitor!
Okay,
So I sat down the last few nights and read Visitor 1-13 (minus issues 11 and 12...don't own them yet ).
Anyways, I really enjoyed the book's aspect as it's study of Pete Stanchek (pretty wild that he was both the hero and the villain...lol).
My confusion though is this: in Harbinger #25, Pete and Charlene walked "off into the sunset" together, yet in the Visitor story (beginning with Harbinger Files #2), Pete was actually in captivity of Harada brainwashed into being "The Harbinger."
So my question is, where did it show Harada getting Pete back in the Valiant mythos? Am I missing an issue/story somewhere that explains that? Lol...
Finally, my general opinion of the Visitor is that he had a LOT of potential, and had some good, fun battles w/ The Harbinger...but there were certainly some stinkers in the bunch (The fight with Bio-Mech was "meh:).
On a related note...my first band was called "Biomech." Lol....
So I sat down the last few nights and read Visitor 1-13 (minus issues 11 and 12...don't own them yet ).
Anyways, I really enjoyed the book's aspect as it's study of Pete Stanchek (pretty wild that he was both the hero and the villain...lol).
My confusion though is this: in Harbinger #25, Pete and Charlene walked "off into the sunset" together, yet in the Visitor story (beginning with Harbinger Files #2), Pete was actually in captivity of Harada brainwashed into being "The Harbinger."
So my question is, where did it show Harada getting Pete back in the Valiant mythos? Am I missing an issue/story somewhere that explains that? Lol...
Finally, my general opinion of the Visitor is that he had a LOT of potential, and had some good, fun battles w/ The Harbinger...but there were certainly some stinkers in the bunch (The fight with Bio-Mech was "meh:).
On a related note...my first band was called "Biomech." Lol....
- BloodOfHeroes
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I once interviewed Kevin VanHook about THE VISITOR and he told me he used it to explain Pete's disappearance in RAI #0 events.
Although the book was sadly cancelled (ahead of its time, I think), he had originally intended for "young" Pete to take on the mantle of The Visitor. And, manoman, no one writes tales of redemption and atonement better than VanHook.
We only get hints of Harada's capturing and brainwashing of Pete. The acquisition is never shown on panel, so you're not missing an issue.
I really like THE VISITOR. It was nice to see an adherence to RAI #0, even after/during BIRTHQUAKE.
I can look for that old interview, if anyone's interested.
BOH
Although the book was sadly cancelled (ahead of its time, I think), he had originally intended for "young" Pete to take on the mantle of The Visitor. And, manoman, no one writes tales of redemption and atonement better than VanHook.
We only get hints of Harada's capturing and brainwashing of Pete. The acquisition is never shown on panel, so you're not missing an issue.
I really like THE VISITOR. It was nice to see an adherence to RAI #0, even after/during BIRTHQUAKE.
I can look for that old interview, if anyone's interested.
BOH
- JonesyAZ
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Thank you for the info, Mr. "Heroes." I do recall reading something about Pete disappearing in Rai 0. It sure is cool how that single issue was fleshed out more in future titles (Timewalker's presence in "The Harbinger Wars" was a cool thing to see...but I still don't have the third part of that story...aargh! Lol).BloodOfHeroes wrote:I once interviewed Kevin VanHook about THE VISITOR and he told me he used it to explain Pete's disappearance in RAI #0 events.
Although the book was sadly cancelled (ahead of its time, I think), he had originally intended for "young" Pete to take on the mantle of The Visitor. And, manoman, no one writes tales of redemption and atonement better than VanHook.
We only get hints of Harada's capturing and brainwashing of Pete. The acquisition is never shown on panel, so you're not missing an issue.
I really like THE VISITOR. It was nice to see an adherence to RAI #0, even after/during BIRTHQUAKE.
I can look for that old interview, if anyone's interested.
BOH
I would like to see that interview, if it doesn't take too much work on your part to find it
Re: The Visitor!
Back in the days they used to tease us with the line "when you know who the Harbinger is, you will know who the Visitor is".JonesyAZ wrote:pretty wild that he was both the hero and the villain...lol
We were not supposed to know, so it's logical that they never really showed it, as Anthony confirms.where did it show Harada getting Pete back in the Valiant mythos?
As said above Rai 0 talks about the disappearance in 2056 (explained in Timewalker as an ambush during the Harbinger wars). But there should have been two captures. One before he became the Harbinger and one before he became the Visitor. I think only one was explained.
/Magnus
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ALSO written by Kevin VanHookJonesyAZ wrote:It sure is cool how that single issue was fleshed out more in future titles (Timewalker's presence in "The Harbinger Wars" was a cool thing to see...but I still don't have the third part of that story...aargh! Lol).
If it's on the internal harddrive, it'll be no problem. If it's on the external drive, I haven't yet found the box that it's in!I would like to see that interview, if it doesn't take too much work on your part to find it
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I just re-read The Visitor and have some questions:
1) When and how did the Harbinger (present Pete) and the Visitor (future Pete) acquire "sonic scream"? The Harbinger used it in Visitor #2 and the Visitor used it in #8. The Harbinger called this ability "sonic scream" in #8.
2) How is the Visitor able to phase through walls? You can see that in #8 when he phased through the ground to enter his underground hideout. He also used the phasing power to save kids in the school with bombs.
Pete never showed these powers before the Visitor series.
1) When and how did the Harbinger (present Pete) and the Visitor (future Pete) acquire "sonic scream"? The Harbinger used it in Visitor #2 and the Visitor used it in #8. The Harbinger called this ability "sonic scream" in #8.
2) How is the Visitor able to phase through walls? You can see that in #8 when he phased through the ground to enter his underground hideout. He also used the phasing power to save kids in the school with bombs.
Pete never showed these powers before the Visitor series.
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That was all in the never released Visitor 0!iggy101us wrote:I just re-read The Visitor and have some questions:
1) When and how did the Harbinger (present Pete) and the Visitor (future Pete) acquire "sonic scream"? The Harbinger used it in Visitor #2 and the Visitor used it in #8. The Harbinger called this ability "sonic scream" in #8.
2) How is the Visitor able to phase through walls? You can see that in #8 when he phased through the ground to enter his underground hideout. He also used the phasing power to save kids in the school with bombs.
Pete never showed these powers before the Visitor series.
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iggy101us wrote:I just re-read The Visitor and have some questions:
1) When and how did the Harbinger (present Pete) and the Visitor (future Pete) acquire "sonic scream"? The Harbinger used it in Visitor #2 and the Visitor used it in #8. The Harbinger called this ability "sonic scream" in #8.
2) How is the Visitor able to phase through walls? You can see that in #8 when he phased through the ground to enter his underground hideout. He also used the phasing power to save kids in the school with bombs.
Pete never showed these powers before the Visitor series.
Here is where I miss MOTA. This would be a classic MOTA "response.
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Your answer is in this thread, in the first post by Bernard Chang:iggy101us wrote:Another question is what happend to the art in Visitor #13? It looks half-done and the colors are off in some cases.
http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewto ... sc&start=0
The hints as to what an Omega Harbinger is, have changed during time. They did finally say that an Omega has all possible Harbinger abilities. I guess with his massive mental powers Pete just never saw the need to use minor powers like these before.iggy101us wrote:I just re-read The Visitor and have some questions:
1) When and how did the Harbinger (present Pete) and the Visitor (future Pete) acquire "sonic scream"? The Harbinger used it in Visitor #2 and the Visitor used it in #8. The Harbinger called this ability "sonic scream" in #8.
2) How is the Visitor able to phase through walls? You can see that in #8 when he phased through the ground to enter his underground hideout. He also used the phasing power to save kids in the school with bombs.
Pete never showed these powers before the Visitor series.
/Magnus
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Ahh . . . thanks, printing mishap.Brother J wrote:Your answer is in this thread, in the first post by Bernard Chang:iggy101us wrote:Another question is what happend to the art in Visitor #13? It looks half-done and the colors are off in some cases.
http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewto ... sc&start=0