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 Post subject: Archer and Armstrong #0
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:07:03 pm 
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Archer and Armstrong 0 was a very enjoyable read, and probably one of the better books I have picked up recently. This was one of the "holes" I needed to fill, and it was worth the wait.

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8.5 out of 10.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:34:36 pm 
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It is probably my favorite single Val. book.

10 out of 10!


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:35:03 pm 
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I wonder what Jedi thinks about this book?

:hm: :hm: :hm: :hm: :hm:


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:11:57 pm 
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I think he hates it.....


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:26:14 am 
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I think he hates it.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:27:16 am 
I do embrace my inner geekdom
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oh...I liked it too...overall A&A from 0 to 12 were some fine reads... :thumb:

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
I think he hates it.....



I've heard that.......


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:24:18 pm 
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The perfect comic! Perfect setup, perfect origin, perfect characterization, perfect art (love that BWS). 10 outta 10.

man i must have read this both 100 times :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:26:42 pm 
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acc205 wrote:
The perfect comic! Perfect setup, perfect origin, perfect characterization, perfect art (love that BWS). 10 outta 10.

man i must have read this both 100 times :lol:



I hear Jedi could do this, never reading the same book twice. (or almost)


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:00:54 pm 
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acc205 wrote:
The perfect comic! Perfect setup, perfect origin, perfect characterization, perfect art (love that BWS). 10 outta 10.

man i must have read this both 100 times :lol:



I hear Jedi could do this, never reading the same book twice. (or almost)
by now I would say at least 100 times

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:52:05 am 
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Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end. Overall a very good series.


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*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end.


They all did....


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Daniel Jackson wrote:
*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end.


They all did....


I thought Turok was very good from start to finish (even the ones with the Nazi chicks who had Elvis in a flying saucer :thumb: ).


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*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end. Overall a very good series.


I thought it was great all the way until BWS left. In fact #12 was my fav issue :D


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Daniel Jackson wrote:
*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end.


They all did....


Rai, Shadowman and Turok were great till the end. X-O, Solar and Harbinger were great well into double digits. Eternal Warrior was decent for a long time too (although never as good as that first issue) etc.


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acc205 wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end.


They all did....


Rai, Shadowman and Turok were great till the end. X-O, Solar and Harbinger were great well into double digits. Eternal Warrior was decent for a long time too (although never as good as that first issue) etc.


Shadowman and EW were alright towards the end, although nothing spectacular. Rai and Turok however..... definitely not good. They weren't X-O bad, but pretty close.


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I'll be on the road this weekend until Tuesday, and A&A up to aboot 12 will probably travel with me as well as XO.


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acc205 wrote:
*SQUEE* wrote:
Just re-read the entire series. Excellent up to issue #8. Then it fell off alot near the end. Overall a very good series.


I thought it was great all the way until BWS left. In fact #12 was my fav issue :D


Just read the A&A full run for the first time. Yeah, the BWS books, (0-12) were excellent, and then the rest were pretty brutal. Really awful I thought. I haven't read a long run of Mike Baron before, and I have heard people really liked his Nexus work, etc. but geez.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:00:03 pm 
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Baron is good on some things and not so much on others. The problem with A&A, during the post-BWS section, was the art. Vosburg simply did not have a handle on the characters. If they had gotten someone else then perhaps the stories would have worked a little better. Not all of them were bad, but they were much more run of the mill than the extraordinary work BWS did. I did not like how the whole mystery of the bag was never touched on again, Gil and Ivar never showed up until the final issue, ect. I have one question-what the heck was up with Archer having full hair and a pony tail? Who had the bright idea for THAT?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:06:17 pm 
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Many things were wrong with the end of A&A. Having them at that "fat camp" or whatever, was terrible.

And I agree about the magic satchel.......

But I am not going to say anything about the ....
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the whole mystery of the bag was never touched on again,


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:40:52 pm 
Wang, Wang, Wang, I want all of your books.
Wang, Wang, Wang, I want all of your books.
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A&A zero was one of my favorite pre-unity books. It actually was the first zero book that I ever bought and I was excited. Amazing story. Everyone has said it, but it definitely dropped after BWS stopped pencilling the series.


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