When will Dynamit(e)'s Gold Key license expire?

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When will Dynamit(e)'s Gold Key license expire?

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Isn't there a time limit for them to publish new material or the license will expire?

I kinda thought that was the reason they were pushing out those group books like Soveriegns.

It could be the case where Dyna is going to let them expire because the licenses cost money and the sales have been terrible on the most recent series with the new 'castings' (Magnus as female etc.)

I did flip through reads of some of them and they seemed like unreadable generic pretentious stories. Some of the art looked alright, but who wants to read these, is anybody asking for these re-castings? It seems like the comic industry is obsessed with this for some reason. Turok is an icon for Native people and has been in hundreds of comics, animation, successful video games, why would you make him some average black guy? It just makes no sense.

I'll be happy if and when these characters get far away from Dynamite. Not sure how or when these characters will emerge again, but better to let them rest than have Dynamite continue these abominations. Even the first series they did with the GK heroes kind of looking like the classic iterations were just bait and switch generic half-baked stories that used the characters in name only.

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Ryan wrote:Isn't there a time limit for them to publish new material or the license will expire?

I kinda thought that was the reason they were pushing out those group books like Soveriegns.

It could be the case where Dyna is going to let them expire because the licenses cost money and the sales have been terrible on the most recent series with the new 'castings' (Magnus as female etc.)

I did flip through reads of some of them and they seemed like unreadable generic pretentious stories. Some of the art looked alright, but who wants to read these, is anybody asking for these re-castings? It seems like the comic industry is obsessed with this for some reason. Turok is an icon for Native people and has been in hundreds of comics, animation, successful video games, why would you make him some average black guy? It just makes no sense.

I'll be happy if and when these characters get far away from Dynamite (sucks!). Not sure how or when these characters will emerge again, but better to let them rest than have Dynamite (sucks!) continue these abominations. Even the first series they did with the GK heroes kind of looking like the classic iterations were just bait and switch generic half-baked stories that used the characters in name only.
Usually that's how it works. Hard to say what that period of time is before a license lapses or when it expires completely without inside knowledge. Either way, I doubt DMG would be interested because they wouldn't profit from any non-publishing media like TV or Films.
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I guess its probably not necessary at this point, but it actually would be pretty easy to work those characters into the current universe. Might make for a damn good summer event.

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BugsySig wrote: Usually that's how it works. Hard to say what that period of time is before a license lapses or when it expires completely without inside knowledge. Either way, I doubt DMG would be interested because they wouldn't profit from any non-publishing media like TV or Films.
Good point. I think Dino was always for it because he was a big fan, but it doesn't seem like it would be worth the hassle for DMG and might take some spotlight off of the characters they own.
depluto wrote:I guess its probably not necessary at this point, but it actually would be pretty easy to work those characters into the current universe. Might make for a damn good summer event.
That would the kind of soft reboot I could get behind. No need to throw out the continuity, but have an event where the GK3 come back and then streamline/relaunch all the main books as ongoings:
Solar
Magnus
Turok
X-O
Bloodshot
Harbinger
Shadowman
a few months later add Ninjak, Geomancer, etc.

That would sell like gangbusters if done right. But for the reasons above and others I'm sure this is just a pipe dream.

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The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.

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greg wrote:The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.
:hm:

Alpha & Omega 2, where Solar 'accidentally' creates another black hole and destroys another universe (starts with Dyna, oops), only he and a few others survive the trip into a 'new' universe looking for a home. Call it Unity Wars :lol:

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Ryan wrote:
greg wrote:The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.
:hm:

Alpha & Omega 2, where Solar 'accidentally' creates another black hole and destroys another universe (starts with Dyna, oops), only he and a few others survive the trip into a 'new' universe looking for a home. Call it Unity Wars :lol:
Just for the sake of fun, it would be a way to bring Flamingo back. You could also have Magnus as the son of VH1 Kris and Torque...who’s alive in the VEI universe and VERY different.

Can Solar and Divinity Co-exist? Can their powers/origins somehow be connected? Could they pull a Deathmate?

Magnus fits well with War Mother, Rai and 4002, and could lead a new Future Force/Secret Weapons/etc. Malev War?

Turok and Savage are a bit superfluous, but put them both in the Faraway/Savage Land and can Savage be Turok’s new protégée?

Could we get Geoff McHenry back? Buck McHenry? Any McHenry?!? (I miss Kay in case anyone was wondering).
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Ryan wrote:
greg wrote:The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.
:hm:

Alpha & Omega 2, where Solar 'accidentally' creates another black hole and destroys another universe (starts with Dyna, oops), only he and a few others survive the trip into a 'new' universe looking for a home. Call it Unity Wars :lol:
Call it the Chaos Effect.

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Chiclo wrote:
Ryan wrote:
greg wrote:The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.
:hm:

Alpha & Omega 2, where Solar 'accidentally' creates another black hole and destroys another universe (starts with Dyna, oops), only he and a few others survive the trip into a 'new' universe looking for a home. Call it Unity Wars :lol:
Call it the Chaos Effect.
I totally forgot about what happenend in the Chaos Effect, even though I've read them all. Couldn't even find a synopsis online

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Chiclo wrote:
Ryan wrote:
greg wrote:The introduction of the Red Brigade into the Valiant Universe is an example of how the current storytelling model could introduce (and keep) any character. The Fall of Harbinger gives a multiverse where "other Valiant universes" could be equally valid, with other characters, as needed.
:hm:

Alpha & Omega 2, where Solar 'accidentally' creates another black hole and destroys another universe (starts with Dyna, oops), only he and a few others survive the trip into a 'new' universe looking for a home. Call it Unity Wars :lol:
Call it the Chaos Effect.

:funnypost:

That would be spot on.
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