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jedimarley wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Zoom Suit.

Though issue #3 kicked a$$. :oops:
How many issues did that run to in the end? (No pun intended)
Four.
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and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.

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Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
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Great posts on Ghost rider!

Something that really disappointed me was Moon Knights somewhat side kick ~ Frenchie ~ Jean Paul going gay for no reason.

All through the series, everything says heterosexual, from his first appearance back in werewolf by night ~ all through all the series he had female lovers and partners ~ no hint of anything else. Not even a suggestion.

Then suddenly

Oh wait ~ I'm gay now. facepalm

First I don't care, and second ~ if marvel wants to include more variety of sexual orientation ~ why do it to a character that had showed no attraction to men in that way ever.

Saying that, he is such an obscure character it doesn't effect anything. So completely pointless exercise.
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Phantom wrote:Great posts on Ghost rider!

Something that really disappointed me was Moon Knights somewhat side kick ~ Frenchie ~ Jean Paul going gay for no reason.

All through the series, everything says heterosexual, from his first appearance back in werewolf by night ~ all through all the series he had female lovers and partners ~ no hint of anything else. Not even a suggestion.

Then suddenly

Oh wait ~ I'm gay now. facepalm

First I don't care, and second ~ if marvel wants to include more variety of sexual orientation ~ why do it to a character that had showed no attraction to men in that way ever.

Saying that, he is such an obscure character it doesn't effect anything. So completely pointless exercise.
There are people that do come out of the closet later in life and they don't necessarily show "signs" of being gay.
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MarkRoseHFX wrote:The Dark Knight Strikes Again because it SUCKED
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leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
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Brother Darque wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
ended.
:thumb:

So at least two os us liked those books. :)

I thought some very good stuff was done with the characters. I think because I came in to them with a re-imagining (!mpact), and have now seen them via multiple iterations, I can enjoy each version on its own merits, whereas some I know have hated the reinterpretations.

I wish there had been enough time to flesh out Comet, and reveal more about Steel Sterling and Mr. Justice (who had a one panel or thereabouts cameo - even John Rozum, the writer of the Hangman series - missed the cameo; I know, I asked!).
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leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
ended.
:thumb:

So at least two os us liked those books. :)

I thought some very good stuff was done with the characters. I think because I came in to them with a re-imagining (!mpact), and have now seen them via multiple iterations, I can enjoy each version on its own merits, whereas some I know have hated the reinterpretations.

I wish there had been enough time to flesh out Comet, and reveal more about Steel Sterling and Mr. Justice (who had a one panel or thereabouts cameo - even John Rozum, the writer of the Hangman series - missed the cameo; I know, I asked!).
The gem of the DC-run Red Circle comics was The Web.....It's a shame that title didn't catch on, what a fun series that was. One of the best moments was when The Web messed with Batgirl (Stephanie Brown).

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Savant wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
ended.
:thumb:

So at least two os us liked those books. :)

I thought some very good stuff was done with the characters. I think because I came in to them with a re-imagining (!mpact), and have now seen them via multiple iterations, I can enjoy each version on its own merits, whereas some I know have hated the reinterpretations.

I wish there had been enough time to flesh out Comet, and reveal more about Steel Sterling and Mr. Justice (who had a one panel or thereabouts cameo - even John Rozum, the writer of the Hangman series - missed the cameo; I know, I asked!).
The gem of the DC-run Red Circle comics was The Web.....It's a shame that title didn't catch on, what a fun series that was. One of the best moments was when The Web messed with Batgirl (Stephanie Brown).
:thumb:

A great take on the concept, especially the out-sourced heroics. Also, loved the Roger Robinson art. :)
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Savant wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Brother Darque wrote:and Red Circle at DC.

i really like what was done with the characters at DC.
Disappointment that it was done, or disappointment that it ended? If because it ended, i am with you - I really enjoyed those re-imaginings. :)
ended.
:thumb:

So at least two os us liked those books. :)

I thought some very good stuff was done with the characters. I think because I came in to them with a re-imagining (!mpact), and have now seen them via multiple iterations, I can enjoy each version on its own merits, whereas some I know have hated the reinterpretations.

I wish there had been enough time to flesh out Comet, and reveal more about Steel Sterling and Mr. Justice (who had a one panel or thereabouts cameo - even John Rozum, the writer of the Hangman series - missed the cameo; I know, I asked!).
The gem of the DC-run Red Circle comics was The Web.....It's a shame that title didn't catch on, what a fun series that was. One of the best moments was when The Web messed with Batgirl (Stephanie Brown).
i liked what they did with The Hangman & The Fox.

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This board the past few weeks.

A few of you have really let the quality of your posts drop.

You know who you are.

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dave wrote:This board the past few weeks.

A few of you have really let the quality of your posts drop.

You know who you are.
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lorddunlow wrote:
dave wrote:This board the past few weeks.

A few of you have really let the quality of your posts drop.

You know who you are.
:hi: I am unapologetic.
The quality of your posts couldn't possible have dropped dunlow. You can't get any worse :P
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MarkRoseHFX wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
dave wrote:This board the past few weeks.

A few of you have really let the quality of your posts drop.

You know who you are.
:hi: I am unapologetic.
The quality of your posts couldn't possible have dropped dunlow. You can't get any worse :P
:hm: you may be right.
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New Hellblazer.
Long term fan, have most every issue from around issue 30? onwards. Collected most back issues between 1-30.

New relaunch pointless. Read first few - doesn't seem, well - disappointed to say the least.
Don't read it anymore.

Shame. It was brilliant.
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dave wrote:This board the past few weeks.

A few of you have really let the quality of your posts drop.

You know who you are.
well, go someplace else mr. guy!

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Having not read Ghost Rider before I'm half interested in this new series as a point to delving into the character and its world. I'm not that keen on the LA drug gang violence/car racing angle, but I can see how that may provide a perpetually antagonistic locale for GR, so I'm hoping to at least skim a copy of it. Having said that, I am a bit miffed that my first chance to check out modern-day Ghost Rider is in the form of a moody teenager mechaphiliac that drives a (wicked badass) car in a setting that I personally disdain. Gives me good reason still to delve into back issues of Ghost Rider, if nothing else.

I've just passed my first year in the comic book world so I haven't had much pass by that's disappointed as such, but I have two gripes with what I've experienced from what's occurred so far:

- 'A1' comic by Titan: miniseries that I picked up six issues of that didn't provide any conclusion to the disjointed stories contained within. Quite poor.

- 'Misleading' titles from Valiant: Harbinger Wars - Nowhere near the rip-roaring actionfest I expected it to be based on the word 'War' in the title, and as somebody else mentioned, Planet Death featuring nothing nearly close to the sort. Both titles have resulted somewhat in a sense of anti-climax, even though the comics themselves were indeed well executed and enjoyable.
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Pretty much anything by Dynamite. Either because it didn't live up to potential, its poor quality or falling to delays and cancellation.

Almost everything from the New 52, especially all the WildStorm books/characters (though I thought Voodoo was good before Martz was run off).
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Shadowman99 wrote:Gives me good reason still to delve into back issues of Ghost Rider, if nothing else.
If you're seriously interested in checking out Ghost Rider, I have two recommendations. The Daniel Way and Mark Texeira run from the 2006 series. They have been collected into TBP. This really returned the character to its roots without being hokey and brought back the original Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze. Here's a link to the issues at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/creator_titl ... 2296&pID=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Second would be the 1990 series by Howard Mackie. It introduced a new Ghost Rider, Danny Ketch, and started out really great. The first couple dozen issues are where it's good. From there the whole "Midnight Sons" thing is introduced and things just get way overly complicated and, in my opinion, silly. That was where Ghost Rider started to really suck and every attempted revival continued to suck until Daniel Way's run. Here's the series at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=610" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Heath wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Gives me good reason still to delve into back issues of Ghost Rider, if nothing else.
If you're seriously interested in checking out Ghost Rider, I have two recommendations. The Daniel Way and Mark Texeira run from the 2006 series. They have been collected into TBP. This really returned the character to its roots without being hokey and brought back the original Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze. Here's a link to the issues at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/creator_titl ... 2296&pID=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Second would be the 1990 series by Howard Mackie. It introduced a new Ghost Rider, Danny Ketch, and started out really great. The first couple dozen issues are where it's good. From there the whole "Midnight Sons" thing is introduced and things just get way overly complicated and, in my opinion, silly. That was where Ghost Rider started to really suck and every attempted revival continued to suck until Daniel Way's run. Here's the series at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=610" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey,

Yeah, I've been discussing GR in some depth with another user on here for a while and I am seriously going to check out GR in the near(ish) future, so thanks for the tips, I'll check out those links now :thumb:
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Shadowman99 wrote:
Heath wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:Gives me good reason still to delve into back issues of Ghost Rider, if nothing else.
If you're seriously interested in checking out Ghost Rider, I have two recommendations. The Daniel Way and Mark Texeira run from the 2006 series. They have been collected into TBP. This really returned the character to its roots without being hokey and brought back the original Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze. Here's a link to the issues at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/creator_titl ... 2296&pID=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Second would be the 1990 series by Howard Mackie. It introduced a new Ghost Rider, Danny Ketch, and started out really great. The first couple dozen issues are where it's good. From there the whole "Midnight Sons" thing is introduced and things just get way overly complicated and, in my opinion, silly. That was where Ghost Rider started to really suck and every attempted revival continued to suck until Daniel Way's run. Here's the series at comicbookdb: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=610" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey,

Yeah, I've been discussing GR in some depth with another user on here for a while and I am seriously going to check out GR in the near(ish) future, so thanks for the tips, I'll check out those links now :thumb:
I would add to Heaths recommendations and say that the last 12 or so issues of the original GR series are required reading as well. Great art by Bob Budiansky, & fantastic stories that are weird & creepy as hell (for the time they were made in), that really define what GR should be about. I believe JM Dematteis was the writer of those issues... In the final letter columns, the creators mentioned knowing the book was in trouble sales-wise around #70, and they just started pulling out all the stops & pouring their creative souls into the work.

My all time single favourite Ghost Rider issue is #77 of that run, it finally gave an origin for the demon Zarathos, and to be honest my biggest disappointment with the 90's series (although it was largely excellent as well to me) was that they ignored that origin tale.
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