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This list since Wolvie still has to include:

Harley Quinn
Deadpool
Venom and Carnage
& TMNT

Spider-Gwen is amazingly hot right now, but too new to determine staying power.
Same thing applies to Mile Morales, too new but there's long-term potential with the character.
Rocket Raccoon could grow stronger and the 2nd GOTG movie will propel the character further. That said, Marvel seems unable to craft an interesting solo book around this character.
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5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
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Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
Doesn't that list belong in a thread about your personal favorite comic book characters, and not in a thread about the most important comic book characters? :P
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'Cos he used to be Paste-Pot-Pete.

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Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.

I've only heard of Drift, and I'm a big ol geek who likes Transformers. No way they are the most important comic characters. I doubt more than 1% of comic fans know who they are, not to mention the population at large.
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StarBrand wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
Doesn't that list belong in a thread about your personal favorite comic book characters, and not in a thread about the most important comic book characters? :P
You have your list and I have mine.

A version of Drift is already been the 4th TF movie. Windblade is the first transformer to get a solo ongoing series (as well as being one of the few female TFs), Impactor is in one of the revered comics ever published, (I dare you to go to a major TF fan site and say that book sucks you will be run off as a troll) and might have been in the 3rd TF movie. G2 Jihaxus is one of the scariest Transformers in comics and Straxus aint got nothing on Spider-Man when it comes to clones. Also these characters originated in the comics first before they became toys and movie stars.
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Cyberstrike wrote:
StarBrand wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
Doesn't that list belong in a thread about your personal favorite comic book characters, and not in a thread about the most important comic book characters? :P
You have your list and I have mine.
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StarBrand wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:
StarBrand wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
Doesn't that list belong in a thread about your personal favorite comic book characters, and not in a thread about the most important comic book characters? :P
You have your list and I have mine.
Fair enough. :)
:lol: I would think Optimus Prime and Megatron would have to be more important than any of the above.

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Cyberstrike wrote:5) Jihaxus-Transformers: Generation 2 not the IDW one. Under what seems is a calm cool Cybertronian exterior is a deadly warrior of uncontrolable rage and unbelieveable depravity he blows up a major city just because he can. The IDW version is just a mad sciencist that created an unstable Arcee for reasons and worked with Shockwave to try and destroy the Universe for reasons.

4) Straxus-In the original US Marvel series Straxus is the Decepticon who controls Cybertron while Megatron, Shockwave, and Starscream are on Earth. He's a tyrant who throws Transformers he deems useless into the smelting pools to be melted alive. Blaster cuts his head off with his own axe on the space bridge. In the Marvel UK series his head survives clones Megatron and downloads his mind into the clone Megatron's body while the clone thinks he's the real Megatron. When the real Megatron arrives back on Cybertron he battles the clone and the clone kills himself to avoid Straxus winning.

3) Impactor-The leader of the Wreckers (or one of them) a group of second and third string Autobots that get the messier missions in the war. Impactor in the Marvel UK series dies at the end at the end of Target: 2006 (a great read so go check it out) but in the IDW he is a crazy warrior who doesn't play by the rules. He's a war criminal and one of the most dangerous Autobots in the Universe. Read The Transformers: The Last Stand of the Wreckers a very good...if somewhat overrated story IMHO.

2) Drift-An Autobot warrior with a tragic past. Drift is actually a cool character when he's written well.

1) Windblade-A female Autobot warrior who just got her own ongoing series.
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Wolverine first appeared in 1974 per the Marvel wiki. Frankly, it is kind of hard to figure out who came along and made such a bang since. He has crossed over into A list, leading movies, comics, and toons with stories that can affect everyone else. Casual folks know his name and who you are talking about at the every day dinner table.

Spawn? Maybe if you just consider comics but while he was in a toon and a film they never carried into pop culture like Wolvie's stuff did.

Night Wing? Maybe but see Spawn.

Nope...

I am going to say Star-Lord is it, since Wolvie. He came along in 1976. Hit movie in GOG. Been in toons. Hit comics. Does stuff that influences even the Avengers. Is known at the dinner table thanks to GOG. Peter Quill is my answer then.

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I honestly don't know how you guys underestimate TMNT. I would say they're bigger than Wolverine.

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GGSAE wrote:I honestly don't know how you guys underestimate TMNT. I would say they're bigger than Wolverine.
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As far as recognition, yeah TMNT. You'd have to be living under a rock for the last 25 years to not know who they are. Cowabunga dude!

As far significantly important to publishing comics, one could argue that TMNT fall into that as well, for having the most success as independent comic. But if I were to say what character changed the industry...that would be Sandman as he's responsible for the success of Vertigo and the beginning of DC's foothold of the tradepaperback market. Vertigo is what started the waiting for trade that is all too common now.

I think it's important to mention that a lot Image characters like Spawn, Savage Dragon, and Witchblade had a small significance as they helped redefine the industry as it was no longer just two powerhouse publishers. I don't think any or one characters from Image changed things though, it was more or less the creators who played a larger role in how the market shifted. Which is why I feel Sandman had more significant impact. The character and story itself was fairly revolutionary for it's time. It's won a lot of awards and is often credited for the launching Vertigo imprint to new heights.

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Are there any villains that should get notable mentions like Bane or Doomsday that came about post-1974? Thanos first appeared February 1973 so that rules him out.

OTher notable mentions might be Cyborg, Deathstroke, Starfire, and Raven from Teen Titans which was a consistently top-selling book in the 80's and has had a couple successful cartoon shows in the last 10 years I believe.
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geocarr wrote:Are there any villains that should get notable mentions like Bane or Doomsday that came about post-1974? Thanos first appeared February 1973 so that rules him out.

OTher notable mentions might be Cyborg, Deathstroke, Starfire, and Raven from Teen Titans which was a consistently top-selling book in the 80's and has had a couple successful cartoon shows in the last 10 years I believe.
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hulk181man wrote:This list since Wolvie still has to include:

Harley Quinn
Deadpool
Venom and Carnage
& TMNT
Good list. I'd include Cable, Bane, Deathstroke, Spawn, Invincible, Witchblade and the Darkness.
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A real beard stroker for sure. First, in what context are we labeling "important"? Important to the continuity of Marvel's comic book universe or Important in terms of his impact/legacy?

Like BugsySig and hulkman181, I'll definitely agree that Venom is a very important character. Both as a villian turned anti-hero and the impact he had on Peter Parker's life as Spiderman
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omega_override wrote:A real beard stroker for sure.
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StarBrand wrote:Miles Morales.
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x-omatic wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Miles Morales.
Who???

I didn't say Miles Morales is the most famous character since Wolverine. Just the most important.
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StarBrand wrote:
x-omatic wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Miles Morales.
Who???

I didn't say Miles Morales is the most famous character since Wolverine. Just the most important.
Starb, I'm curious, why do you think MM is so important?

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Elveen wrote:
StarBrand wrote:
x-omatic wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Miles Morales.
Who???

I didn't say Miles Morales is the most famous character since Wolverine. Just the most important.
Starb, I'm curious, why do you think MM is so important?
He's actually Spider-Man to a fairly large number of readers. He's their Spider-Man. That's huge to me.
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I'm going to admit I may have been wrong. TMNT may be more important than Miles. You TMNT supporters won me over.
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StarBrand wrote:I'm going to admit I may have been wrong. TMNT may be more important than Miles. You TMNT supporters won me over.
Everyone knows Spider-man, and your Miles statement splits the fandom of Spider-man between Peter Parker and Miles Morales.
Everyone knows Spider-man, but some people don't know Miles Morales.

Everyone knows TMNT... and that's the end of the statement.

So, "everyone" for TMNT should be greater than "some of everyone" for Miles. :lol:

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Depending on the value assigned each person Miles is Spider-Man to. It's a staggering accomplishment.
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