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 Post subject: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:22:21 pm 
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Woot. I got to my comic shop during lunch and read both the books this week, so first!

This was one of those weeks where, for the first time in awhile, I was watching my watch to go "when is it gonna open!" so I could pick up my books.

Which is odd, because I get review copies of Valiant stuff through my new gig at Bounding Into Comics. But I wanted them anyway, heh. I actually unless I'm reviewing for the site proper would prefer to read on paper than on a screen. Better feel for comics.

I had Shadowman already written up this morning: http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/03/2 ... an-2018-1/

A firm "meh, but wait and see" from me. Nothing made me upset really, nothing really excited me either. 7/10 Art is beautiful.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:29:31 pm 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:42:04 pm 
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Is shadowmam a ongoing title or a mini?


I think it's billed as an ongoing but I can't recall actually seeing that confirmed.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
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otomo wrote:
nonplayer wrote:
Is shadowmam a ongoing title or a mini?


I think it's billed as an ongoing but I can't recall actually seeing that confirmed.


I remember an interview with Andy Diggle stating that he had the first two years of the series mapped out.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:51:04 pm 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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otomo wrote:
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Is shadowmam a ongoing title or a mini?


I think it's billed as an ongoing but I can't recall actually seeing that confirmed.


I remember an interview with Andy Diggle stating that he had the first two years of the series mapped out.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:58:49 pm 
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otomo wrote:
A firm "meh, but wait and see" from me. Nothing made me upset really, nothing really excited me either. 7/10 Art is beautiful.


This... 8/10 :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
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otomo wrote:
Woot. I got to my comic shop during lunch and read both the books this week, so first!

This was one of those weeks where, for the first time in awhile, I was watching my watch to go "when is it gonna open!" so I could pick up my books.

Which is odd, because I get review copies of Valiant stuff through my new gig at Bounding Into Comics. But I wanted them anyway, heh. I actually unless I'm reviewing for the site proper would prefer to read on paper than on a screen. Better feel for comics.

I had Shadowman already written up this morning: http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/03/2 ... an-2018-1/

A firm "meh, but wait and see" from me. Nothing made me upset really, nothing really excited me either. 7/10 Art is beautiful.


Your review nailed it... there's no hook.

I too dashed to the comic shop at lunch to get it asap. It's been my most anticipated book this year, and I think your 7/10 is fair. It didn't do anything to upset me, I just worry that others who pick up this 1st issue aren't dissuaded by wading through 'catching up on Jack'.

No wait... something did upset me. I really wanted one of those nice cover stocks like XO and Secret Weapons get.

I will add that Diggle's other books, which I read or reread since his announcement are similar in slow builds before the real oomph of the story kicks in... (Green Arrow Year One, Lady Constantine, Swamp Thing vol 3.) So if this is just a 3 issue arc, we shouldn't be that far away from something more entertaining.

How about XO 13 though?... oh other thread...


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:10:17 pm 
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I thought it was a pretty good reintroduction. Pleased that the continuity is there, they didn't walk away from anything and touched upon many of his main backstory elements.

Happy to see the bayou and Baron Samedi again. The opening was very reminiscent of VH1 Shadowman. :clap:

As it opens, we see Alyssa talking about not wanting to look back... and a picture frame with a little girl. Then we hear Jack talking about never wanting to have a child. It's been five years. Could Alyssa have had Jack's child?

I'm pretty darn happy to see Shadowman back with his own title. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:19:58 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
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I thought it was solid! I really liked how Alyssa progressed, as a character, and Shadowman was super cool. I'm in! Can't wait to see what's next!


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
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I think this was a decent issue and a nice reintroduction to the main cast. However, this feels like it is a long form story and would be better read as a trade as opposed to single issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
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otomo wrote:
Woot. I got to my comic shop during lunch and read both the books this week, so first!

This was one of those weeks where, for the first time in awhile, I was watching my watch to go "when is it gonna open!" so I could pick up my books.

Which is odd, because I get review copies of Valiant stuff through my new gig at Bounding Into Comics. But I wanted them anyway, heh. I actually unless I'm reviewing for the site proper would prefer to read on paper than on a screen. Better feel for comics.

I had Shadowman already written up this morning: http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/03/2 ... an-2018-1/

A firm "meh, but wait and see" from me. Nothing made me upset really, nothing really excited me either. 7/10 Art is beautiful.


Your review nailed it... there's no hook.


I would disagree. For me, the hook was this: It looks like they're planning on really digging into the history of what/why Shadowman is, and why the loa which has bonded to the Shadowmen over the years was exiled in the first place. That kind of long form investigation/research to find the truth would speak to the core of so many problems Jack has with everything Shadowman related... it seems worthwhile to me. I can see a potential story where in finding out what happened, they can maybe make some corrections to balance the scales among the loa's/spirits/whatever, and find a way to empower Jack with more agency and control, allowing him to more fully 'choose' his role, or to see/find out/understand why it's necessary in the big picture. Any of these things will make Jack a more relatable character who is wanting to be the hero, not just whining about being a cage.

Other than that, I thought it was a pretty good #1 issue to bring him back into the fold. About the only continuity that they skipped over was Jack's bit of time back in our world in MI6's prison just before Rapture. Shouldn't he have been made aware at that point of the passage of a good amount of time? Other than that, they did a great job of summarizing Jack's history, and keeping all the previous continuity straight. We even find out that this Jack played a little bit of saxophone when he was younger! :clap:

I'm looking forward to more!

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowman (2018) #1
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:30:18 am 
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As a self confessed NON Shadowman fan, this would have had to have been seriously good to hook me in. I was hoping for more of a Vertigo (serious) style book and this wasn’t that. I thought the dialogue was average, art was average and the first ‘monster’ we see was very poorly designed. In fact it all reminded me of the original Shadowman launch under the VEI era, a just ‘ok’ book. The Baron Samedi part of the book was an improvement.

2.75/5 - very average, not enough to make me pick up the next isssue (will read it on a future ComiXology sale)


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