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Just read it. I'm a little behind in my reading, but if I'm not mistaken, both Yuri and Lucia are first appearances, no? And Snowbeard? Probably some of the other characters too, but those would appear to be the important ones.

The first story echoes the impetus of Marvel's first Civil War a little too much for me.

I imagine that Snowbeard won't last long, if his death is what is required to free up Peter.
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Tell me more, tell me more! I didn't send in coupons for a copy. Hoping this does get reprinted in the trade so I can read it eventually.
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Lucia was briefly mentioned in Secret Weapons as a resident of the Willows. Perhaps she'll join the team in volume 2. The multiple first appearances will probably make Harbinger Wars 2 #0 a major collector's issue.

I didn't send in coupons either so I won't be able to read this issue. Sounds interesting though, from the details you mentioned.

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Okay, so brief synopsis, for those that didn't order a copy.

Main story, by Kindt and Braithwaite: Palmer is interviewing a few witnesses to an event in upstate New York, at an orphanage. It's revealed that Peter Stanchek showed up, activated a psiot (Yuri), and after some time went on his way. HARD Corps shows up to take Yuri in, because she's a psiot, and she uses her ability, to paralyze others, to prevent that. I'll have to read again to get clarification, but I'm not sure if her ability doesn't work on anyone that hasn't gone through puberty or if she chose to limit her targets that way (since she has friends in the orphanage). But it worked in a 2-mile radius, and it continued to effect people that entered the radius, so HARD Corps had to send in a team of children to extract her. (She was one of the people being interrogated about the incident.) The effects are also permanent. That's what I thought was similar to Civil War, and the school being blown up by Nitro. Suburbia gets affects by super-powers and the public will go nuts against powers. The reason that HARD Corps was in the area to begin with was so Agent Snowbeard could psionically get a tracker on Peter to follow him. He's also paralyzed but claims that he will be able to track Peter as long as he is kept alive.

Short backup story by Heisserer, Allen, and Martin, tells the story of Lucia, a resident of the WIllows, whose power is to blow *SQUEE* up. But randomly, it seems. Her power doesn't work on very small things, such as dice, or very large things made of a single substance, like marble statues. But anything middling or composed of pieces might randomly explode when she's around. HARD Corp team comes to the WIllows to take her in, and, surprise, *SQUEE* blows up, taking them out.
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Thanks for the summary! I didn't send in for this either. I sure hope it gets collected.

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Thanks for the summary. Didn’t send my coupons in on time. If anyone has an extra copy, send PM... :hope:
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I'm extremely sad I didn't open my book to even know there were coupons to send in until I had the whole series to read -.-
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That was really good. Great prologue for HW2, and now a painful 5 month wait for the main story to get going.

So was the first kid... at first I thought he was just having an encounter with unshaven hippy Peter. But I suspect Peter was using some weird perception filter that affected anyone viewing him. So the kid was seeing Peter as Jesus, and the H.A.R.D. Corps van driver was seeing his dead wife... though not real sure if he was viewing Peter or just a hallucination Peter was projecting.
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The main story, set in Tonawanda, NY, is less than 90 minutes away from me. While reading I said, "Hey, this comic takes place near us!" to my wife, who was not at all interested.
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I just read this and it's pretty darn good. Ken's synopsis is spot on. An event of this magnitude will set the stage for HW2 nicely.

My copy has very minor bindery fluff at the top and bottom of the spine, I may have it slabbed.

Ken, you set next to me at a Valiant Secret Weapons panel during NYCC. Do you recall that they asked a trivia question about the book, and the answer was Lucia? The guy behind me answered and won a pair of Valiant sunglasses.

Typo of the issue, inside flap: "Peter helped form the Rengades."

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I thought it was a great set up story too. Enjoyed the back up story also.

One small facepalm moment... Peter is barefoot at the start of the story, next page the inker or colourist has him wearing shoes!! How do mistakes like that happen? :?

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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:One small facepalm moment... Peter is barefoot at the start of the story, next page the inker or colourist has him wearing shoes!! How do mistakes like that happen? :?
Maybe the inker or colorist has experience working with Rob Liefeld. If so, they have zero experience with drawn feet. http://images.sequart.org/images/Youngblood-1.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :wink:

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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:One small facepalm moment... Peter is barefoot at the start of the story, next page the inker or colourist has him wearing shoes!! How do mistakes like that happen? :?
I don't have it open in front of me, but could that be the "people seeing him as they wish rather than how he is" thing?

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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:One small facepalm moment... Peter is barefoot at the start of the story, next page the inker or colourist has him wearing shoes!! How do mistakes like that happen? :?
Maybe the inker or colorist has experience working with Rob Liefeld. If so, they have zero experience with drawn feet. http://images.sequart.org/images/Youngblood-1.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :wink:
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:One small facepalm moment... Peter is barefoot at the start of the story, next page the inker or colourist has him wearing shoes!! How do mistakes like that happen? :?
I don't have it open in front of me, but could that be the "people seeing him as they wish rather than how he is" thing?
That's kind of what I was thinking. Dallow, are you referring to early panels where he is projecting a Christ-like persona as he walks on water? Was he shoeless then?

I think it was him actively manipulating his image in witnesses minds.
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I absolutely loved the shorter story about Lucia. What a creative dream-team on Secret Weapons.
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Hey, hey, hey, OTV's baby brother VCR is turning 150!!

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I really liked Lucia’s story, hopefully she gets up with the rest of the crew during HW2. Can’t stay in that cell forever. The little girl from the main story can really do some damage, Pete needs to go back for her. Save them all, but she’s the one.
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agent_graves wrote:I really liked Lucia’s story, hopefully she gets up with the rest of the crew during HW2. Can’t stay in that cell forever. The little girl from the main story can really do some damage, Pete needs to go back for her. Save them all, but she’s the one.
Yeah, I think if she learns how to control her ability, it'll be a really potent one. I hope that she wil be around in the long run.

I'm not really sure why Pete didn't try & take her with him right away.
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