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lorddunlow wrote:My :twocents: on one aspect: no way preview appearances will become a thing that values a book because there will be no way to determine which book with the preview in a VEI book was the first published since every book in a given month has the same damn preview in it. Three books released the same day all have the same preview in them. Which one would be credited as first? Because of this dilemma, I predict preview appearances will be of no increased value.
And as a collector and reader, I would never consider a preview as a 'real' first appearance.

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Is Rai 7 a key book due to a Geomancer first appearance?
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StarBrand wrote:Is Rai 7 a key book due to a Geomancer first appearance?
I'm wondering if The Valiant #4 is. New Geomancer, not sure it's the same character in Rai #7.

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jmatt wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is Rai 7 a key book due to a Geomancer first appearance?
I'm wondering if The Valiant #4 is. New Geomancer, not sure it's the same character in Rai #7.
:hm:
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StarBrand wrote:
jmatt wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is Rai 7 a key book due to a Geomancer first appearance?
I'm wondering if The Valiant #4 is. New Geomancer, not sure it's the same character in Rai #7.
:hm:
Personally, I'm hoping they aren't going to end up being the same character, but I can see it being a tempting idea to write. There should be plenty of other Geomancers crop up between now & whenever that one in RAI was imprisoned.
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grendeljd wrote:Personally, I'm hoping they aren't going to end up being the same character, but I can see it being a tempting idea to write. There should be plenty of other Geomancers crop up between now & whenever that one in RAI was imprisoned.
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So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
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StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
Not really. Buck was first "present day", then Kay.
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:

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StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
Not really. Buck was first "present day", then Kay.
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I meant that little kid that was flying around Gilad like a june bug near the end of TV 4. Still not sure exactly who it is.

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depluto wrote:
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StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
Not really. Buck was first "present day", then Kay.
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I meant that little kid that was flying around Gilad like a june bug near the end of TV 4. Still not sure exactly who it is.
Right. But we do know that kid isn't the first Geomancer past, present, or future. :thumb:

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Roger that. But it looks to me like that kid will be the current Geomancer going forward. I just worded it funny. I meant to say TV 4 is the first appearance of that particular kid. I think.

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depluto wrote:Roger that. But it looks to me like that kid will be the current Geomancer going forward.
Yes, and who knows how long... that kid is from at least 1,000 years in the future... so the Earth has already chosen them for a future role, is this an "immortal" Geomancer?

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BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?

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depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
I posted one somewhere.
I'd add livewire (the VEI version is totally different) and maybe Ion and Hidden moon.
Don't forget the Monk, the vine and Shan.
And most importantly, Cronos.

I think all of these will be movie characters.

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depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
Don't forget Bleeding Monk!

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Elveen wrote:
depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
I posted one somewhere.
I'd add livewire (the VEI version is totally different) and maybe Ion and Hidden moon.
Don't forget the Monk, the vine and Shan.
And most importantly, Cronos.

I think all of these will be movie characters.
Harbinger Wars #1 could end up being big. Those with the Round 1 VFVSS should be very happy.
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kjjohanson wrote:
Elveen wrote:
depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
I posted one somewhere.
I'd add livewire (the VEI version is totally different) and maybe Ion and Hidden moon.
Don't forget the Monk, the vine and Shan.
And most importantly, Cronos.

I think all of these will be movie characters.
Harbinger Wars #1 could end up being big. Those with the Round 1 VFVSS should be very happy.
And signed by Peter Cuneo. That's a rare sig on a rare 1:50.

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Yes on Harby Wars #1. TONS of 1st app in there.

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jmatt wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:
Elveen wrote:
depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
I posted one somewhere.
I'd add livewire (the VEI version is totally different) and maybe Ion and Hidden moon.
Don't forget the Monk, the vine and Shan.
And most importantly, Cronos.

I think all of these will be movie characters.
Harbinger Wars #1 could end up being big. Those with the Round 1 VFVSS should be very happy.
And signed by Peter Cuneo. That's a rare sig on a rare 1:50.
Big thanks to Elery, Bruce and VEI for that! :clap:

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depluto wrote:
greg wrote:
StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
Not really. Buck was first "present day", then Kay.
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I meant that little kid that was flying around Gilad like a june bug near the end of TV 4. Still not sure exactly who it is.
Hey! You trying to take credit for my post, depluto? :lol:
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greg wrote:
StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I have confirmation. Back in the early 90s Kingpin Comics told me Eternal Warrior 6 was the death of Uncle Buck. They were tight with Valiant. How's that for confirmation? Lol
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StarBrand wrote:
greg wrote:
StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I have confirmation. Back in the early 90s Kingpin Comics told me Eternal Warrior 6 was the death of Uncle Buck. They were tight with Valiant. How's that for confirmation? Lol
You totally lost me. :lol:

Back in the early 90s, there was no Geomancer who was crushed by the Boon before we meet Kay from VEI. :P

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greg wrote:
StarBrand wrote:
greg wrote:
StarBrand wrote:So the Rai 7 is the first 4001 geomancer ... does that mean The Valiant 4 is the first present-day geomancer?
(Did we ever get confirmation that his name was Buck?) :hm:
I have confirmation. Back in the early 90s Kingpin Comics told me Eternal Warrior 6 was the death of Uncle Buck. They were tight with Valiant. How's that for confirmation? Lol
You totally lost me. :lol:

Back in the early 90s, there was no Geomancer who was crushed by the Boon before we meet Kay from VEI. :P
Hey, I know what I was told. :lol:
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StarBrand wrote:What are the best new characters VEI has created? What are their first appearances?
Bleeding Monk/Harbinger #1
Divinity/Divinity #1
Dr Mirage(Shan)/Shadowman #5
Punk Mambo/Shadowman #13
Roku/Ninjak #1
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Elveen wrote:
depluto wrote:BTW, I have been loading up on books that have VEI first apps that weren't in VH1, especially Divinity, new Geomancers, Kay McHenry (doh!), Darpan and Gravedog. Do we have a good list of those somewhere?
I posted one somewhere.
I'd add livewire (the VEI version is totally different) and maybe Ion and Hidden moon.
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I think all of these will be movie characters.
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