ValiantFans.com Message Board - Since 2004

Message Board Top Level | Main Website | Price Guide | Book Release History | Newest Books |
It is currently Nov 21, 2017 12:29:49 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:07:34 pm 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Created this quick reference (one-page) for Valiant significant first appearances (1991-1993)

VALIANT COMICS COLLECTIBLE FIRST APPEARANCE ISSUES (in release order)

1991
Magnus #5 – first appearance of Rai (a Rai trading card was included in Magnus #4)
Solar Man of the Atom #3 – first appearance of Toyo Harada and the Harbinger Foundation
Magnus #7 – first appearance of X-O armor (Commando class, earlier than X-O Manowar appearance)

1992
Harbinger #1 – first appearance of the Harbinger renegades (kids): Peter, Kris, Charlene, Faith, Torque
X-O Manowar #1 – first appearance of X-O Manowar armor, first appearance of Aric of Dacia
X-O Manowar #4 – first (brief) appearance of Jack Boniface (becomes Shadowman)
Shadowman #1 – first (full) appearance of Jack Boniface (Shadowman)
Solar #10 – first appearance of Gilad Anni-Padda/Abrams (Eternal Warrior), first Geomancers
Archer & Armstrong #0* – first appearance of Archer & Armstrong (Obadiah Archer, Aram Anni-Padda)
Eternal Warrior #1 - first appearance of Kalam, son of Gilad
Harbinger #10 – first appearance of H.A.R.D.Corps
Eternal Warrior #4 – first (brief) appearance of Bloodshot
Rai #0 – first (full) appearance of Bloodshot, first new Rai, VALIANT universe future revealed
Shadowman #8 – first appearance of Master Darque

1993
Shadowman #10 - first appearance of Sandria Darque
Archer & Armstrong / Eternal Warrior #8 – first appearance of Ivar Anni-Padda (Timewalker)
Harbinger #15 - first appearance of Amanda McKee Livewire (original design)
Eternal Warrior #9 - first appearance of the Book of the Geomancer
Bloodshot #6 – first appearance of Colin King (Ninjak)
Bloodshot #7 - first appearance of Ninjak in costume
Shadowman #16 - first appearance of Doctor Mirage and his wife

BACKGROUND

The VALIANT universe of comics started in 1991 with the re-introduction of Magnus and Solar**.
The first original character was Rai, introduced in Magnus #5. The first original title was Harbinger #1.
The Unity storyline of 1992 brought attention to VALIANT, written as capital letters in the 1990s.
VALIANT was purchased by Acclaim Entertainment in 1994 and Acclaim went bankrupt in 2004.
Valiant Entertainment purchased the Valiant characters in 2005 and restarted the universe in 2012.

It is not necessary to read the 1990s comics for the current Valiant universe, however, these comics
provide the original names, designs, and story influences for many characters reintroduced since 2012.

Generally speaking, the availability of these comics increases down this list. Magnus #5 (1991) is less
common than Bloodshot #6 (1993), and most Valiant comics from 1993-94 are extremely common.

* Two versions of Archer & Armstrong #0: a limited gold edition and a regular edition were produced
** Magnus, Solar, and Turok were licensed characters in the 1990s and not part of the Valiant universe (2012 to present)


As a printable handout: http://valiantfans.com/valiantfirstapp.pdf

... in case someone is asked by a new collector what they should know (first). :lol:

EDIT: Made another version with pictures! :D

Image

As a printable handout: http://valiantfans.com/valiantfirst.pdf


Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on Google+
Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:24:55 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:47:04 pm
Posts: 8543
Location: Central CT
Valiant fan since: 1992
Favorite character: Ninjak
Favorite title: Imperium/Timewalker
Favorite writer: Joshua Dysart/FVL
Favorite artist: Clay Mann
You da man Gregor :thumb:

_________________
Kurt Busiek wrote:
Bull$#!t

Image


Top
  Online Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:00:06 pm 
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:44:48 am
Posts: 24984
Location: Educating the future of America, or something like that
Great idea.


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:13:59 pm 
Cruisin' in Darpan's Winnebago
Cruisin' in Darpan's Winnebago
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:38:02 pm
Posts: 681
Valiant fan since: 1993
Favorite character: TOYO HARADA
Favorite title: HARBINGER
Favorite writer: Joshua Dysart
Favorite artist: Clayton Henry
:thumb:

Nice work!
You could also include Doctor Silk, Ninjak #1.


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:45:40 am 
Personal shoe-shopper for Atom!
Personal shoe-shopper for Atom!

Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:49:58 pm
Posts: 330
Valiant fan since: 90s
Favorite character: Peter Stanchek
Favorite title: XOmanowar
Favorite writer: ?
What about one for VEI?


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:06:57 am 
One of few who have a circa 1993 Valiant tattoo
One of few who have a circa 1993 Valiant tattoo
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:06:09 pm
Posts: 3585
Location: Cody, Wyoming
Valiant fan since: VH1 X-O 14
Favorite character: Sting
Favorite title: Harbinger
Very nice. Thanks, Greg.


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:49:23 am 
I do embrace my inner geekdom
I do embrace my inner geekdom
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:37:59 am
Posts: 15795
Location: watertown, wi
Valiant fan since: 1991
Favorite character: Gilad
Favorite title: Pre-Unity Harbinger
gonna sticky this?

_________________
Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?


Top
  Online Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:16:08 pm 
5318008
5318008
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:03:17 pm
Posts: 3622
Valiant fan since: VEI
:thumb:


Top
  Online Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:36:34 pm 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
EDIT: Made another version with pictures! :D

Image

As a printable handout: http://valiantfans.com/valiantfirst.pdf


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:30:54 pm 
Nice art! (I used to own that.)
Nice art! (I used to own that.)
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:11:13 am
Posts: 4886
Location: Nebraska!
Valiant fan since: 1992
Favorite character: Bloodshot
Favorite title: Harbinger
Favorite writer: Joshua Dysart
Favorite artist: Lewis LaRosa
:clap:

_________________
Valiant art collector, dealer & rep. Check out: http://www.sonicdan.com
Original art, comics, & more in my eBay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Sonicdans-Comics-Art


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:40:17 pm 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Made a chart for the books (plus 3 from 1993) to show the print run comparisons:

Image


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:19:26 am 
Cruisin' in Darpan's Winnebago
Cruisin' in Darpan's Winnebago
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:38:02 pm
Posts: 681
Valiant fan since: 1993
Favorite character: TOYO HARADA
Favorite title: HARBINGER
Favorite writer: Joshua Dysart
Favorite artist: Clayton Henry
:o

I had no idea the pre-unity books sold so well! I seldom see Solar 10 1st prints, I thought it would have a smaller printing.


greg wrote:
Made a chart for the books (plus 3 from 1993) to show the print run comparisons:

Image


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:45:18 am 
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:38:36 am
Posts: 5120
Location: Seattle
Valiant fan since: Solar #1
Favorite character: Rai
Favorite title: Currently Ninjak
Looking at Greg's super handy chart, I would imagine X-O 4 is undervalued. I hardly see these in the wild, and the condition is not mint when I do. I wonder if that one has been overlooked. It has one of the lowest print runs in this group, and may not have been coveted (i.e. care for) by as many given that it is a #4.


Top
  Online Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:39:34 pm 
Huh, huh....dude, you said member.
Huh, huh....dude, you said member.
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:55:58 pm
Posts: 3226
Location: Central, PA
Valiant fan since: Unity
Favorite writer: Warren Ellis
You forgot to mention Bloodshot 6 VVSS-related. Is the collectability of that book now enhanced?

_________________
"Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts...?"


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:52:58 pm 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
The odds it might be faked have probably gone up. :hm:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:04:05 pm 
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:44:48 am
Posts: 24984
Location: Educating the future of America, or something like that
greg wrote:
The odds it might be faked have probably gone up. :hm:


Yes. I have one but I'm concerned about that exact issue now.
I've had mine for awhile, like years and years.
But I can see some peoples looking to cash in with a fake sig


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:16:18 pm 
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:19:35 am
Posts: 1029
Location: Virginia, USA
Although not a key set of characters, I still enjoyed the stories as they developed over time to counter any super being that otherwise couldn't be taken out by traditional means.

:breakingnews: CORRECTED! :breakingnews:

Image


Last edited by bosco685 on Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:09:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:28:22 pm 
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:44:48 am
Posts: 24984
Location: Educating the future of America, or something like that
Where does the Armorines show up in XO #19. I just looked through my copy and could not see it. :insane:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:48:54 am 
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:19:35 am
Posts: 1029
Location: Virginia, USA
Elveen wrote:
Where does the Armorines show up in XO #19. I just looked through my copy and could not see it. :insane:

Uh-oh.

valiantman wrote:
Bosco685 wrote:
Shadowman Vol. 1 #16 (1st Doctor Mirage) - I always enjoyed that short series.
X-O Manowar Vol. 1 #25 (1st Armorines)
Bloodshot Vol. 1 #7 (1st Ninjak in costume)

I hope all these characters show up one day in movies if they are done right.


Those just missed the cut for a "one page" printout. (thumbs u

I believe there are Armorines in X-O #19.


I went on a comment Greg made in a Valiant education discussion on the CGC forum. Better I should have checked first rather than take such statements as fact.

:insane:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:10:58 pm 
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:19:35 am
Posts: 1029
Location: Virginia, USA
Corrected the Armorines reference. Good catch!

Someone help that Greg fellow figure out the Valiant books.

:wink:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:24:47 am 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
bosco685 wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Where does the Armorines show up in XO #19. I just looked through my copy and could not see it. :insane:

Uh-oh.

valiantman wrote:
Bosco685 wrote:
Shadowman Vol. 1 #16 (1st Doctor Mirage) - I always enjoyed that short series.
X-O Manowar Vol. 1 #25 (1st Armorines)
Bloodshot Vol. 1 #7 (1st Ninjak in costume)

I hope all these characters show up one day in movies if they are done right.


Those just missed the cut for a "one page" printout. (thumbs u

I believe there are Armorines in X-O #19.


I went on a comment Greg made in a Valiant education discussion on the CGC forum. Better I should have checked first rather than take such statements as fact.

:insane:



bosco685 wrote:
Corrected the Armorines reference. Good catch!

Someone help that Greg fellow figure out the Valiant books.

:wink:


I was going from memory... based upon this fan project: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=24168&p=511580


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:40:06 pm 
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
H.A.R.D.E.R. Corps, with Extra Resistance
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:19:35 am
Posts: 1029
Location: Virginia, USA
I need to go back and read all of X-O Manowar #19.

COMICVINE: Dr. Plillip Zahn

Comicvine has this book listed as DR Zahn's 1st appearance, who was the creator of the Armorines armor.

:hm:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:06:12 pm 
Harbinger rank: Aonisaibushi
Harbinger rank: Aonisaibushi
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:57:57 pm
Posts: 216
Location: Zappin' yo ass!
This list is incomplete.


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:22:36 pm 
Those responsible for those remarks have been sacked.
Those responsible for those remarks have been sacked.
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:07:56 pm
Posts: 3870
Location: Woods of Southeastern NC
Valiant fan since: 1992
Favorite character: Vincent the Goat!
Favorite title: All of them!
Hotwire wrote:
This list is incomplete.

This post above is awesomely helpful. :P
Tag, you're it.

_________________
***Support your local farmers!***


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:45:02 pm 
not unlike me
not unlike me
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39:27 am
Posts: 20610
Location: Indoors
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
bosco685 wrote:
I need to go back and read all of X-O Manowar #19.

COMICVINE: Dr. Plillip Zahn

Comicvine has this book listed as DR Zahn's 1st appearance, who was the creator of the Armorines armor.

:hm:

Zahn also studied the X-O armor in #19, which provided the insight/tech to create the Armorines. So, the Armorines may not appear in #19, but you might consider #19 the Armorines origin. :hm:


Top
  Offline Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group