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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:15:30 am 
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January 1991
Page 63
Magnus: Robot Fighter #1 32pg $1.75 (Gem of the month)
-Mentions of the first eight issues containing card and the coupon for #0. Also that the #0 with be available at a later date w/o the card.

Page 64
B&W full page Magnus ad

2 page Full Color insert between page 64 & 65
- Magnus #1 cover, preview of panels, covers to #2, 3, 4 and #0.
- Shows 9 of the trading cards and lists artists that will do the artwork.

Page 65
Super Mario Bros. Vol. 2 #5 $1.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #5 32pg $1.50
Legend of Zelda Vol. 2 #5 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #5 $1.50

Back inside cover
B&W ad for Magnus #0
“Retailers! The Spectacular 6’ x 2.5’ TEKLA poster is coming! The most
fantastic female of the future will help you sell Magnus Robot Fighter.”

February 1991
Page 67
Magnus: Robot Fighter #2 32pg $1.75 (Spotlight On)
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #6 32pg $1.50

Page 68
B&W ad for Magnus #0

Page 69
Super Mario Bros. Vol. 2 #6 $1.50
Legend of Zelda Vol. 2 #6 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #6 $1.50

March 1991
Page 93
B&W ad for Magnus #0

Page 94
Magnus: Robot Fighter #3 32pg $1.75
Super Mario Bros. Vol. 2 #7 $1.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #7 $1.50
Legend of Zelda Vol. 2 #7 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #7 $1.50

April 1991
Page 93
Solar ad

Page 94
Magnus: Robot Fighter #4 32pg $1.75
Solar Man of The Atom #1 32pg $1.75 (Spotlight on & features different artwork than the published cover)
Secrets of the World Wrestling Federation #1 $1.75

Page 95
B&W ad for WWF comics

Page 96
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #1 $1.75 (Spotlight On)
Super Mario Bros. Vol. 2 #8 $1.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #8 $1.50
Legend of Zelda Vol. 2 #8 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #8 $1.50

B&W Solar Promo 6.5 x 9 “Card” between pages 144 & 145

May 1991
Page 98
Magnus: Robot Fighter #5 / Rai #1 32pg $1.75 (Spotlight on)
Solar Man of The Atom #2 32pg $1.75 (different artwork than the published cover)
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #1 $2.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #9 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #9 $1.50

Page 99
Color ad for Solar

June 1991
Page 112
Magnus: Robot Fighter #6 / Rai #2 32pg $1.75
Solar Man of the Atom #3 32pg $1.75
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #2 $2.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #10 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #10 $1.50

Page 113
Ad for Magnus, Rai & Solar

PAGE 115 Wizard #1 is solicited and the fall of comics begins.

July 1991
Page 111
Magnus: Robot Fighter #7 / Rai #3 32pg $1.75
Solar Man of the Atom #4 32pg $1.75

Page 112
Ad for Magnus, Rai, and WWF books.

Between page 112 & 113
Comic page from Alpha & Omega story included.

Page 113
Solar Ad

Page 114
-Order Update-
“Solar Man of the Atom #1. We are offering the “Order Update” on the first issue of Solar, following its initial release. These orders will ship after the original order. “

World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #3 $2.50
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #4 $2.50
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #11 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #11 $1.50

August 1991
Page 108
Magnus: Robot Fighter #8 / Rai #4 32pg $1.95
The Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #1 (of 4) $1.95 (Spotlight on)
Magnus: Robot Fighter #0 Direct Market Edition (Please Inquire)
“This is the special Direct Market edition available on a very limited basis. It will not feature a printed cover price. This edition will differ from the mail-in version, as it will not include the trading card with the artwork of Barry Windsor Smith”
Solar Man of the Atom #5 32pg $1.95
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #5 $2.50
Lifestyles of the Brutal & Infamous – WWF Illustrated Action book $2.95
Out-Of-the-Ring Challenges – WWF Illustrated Action book $2.95

Page 109
Harbinger #1 $1.95 (Spotlight on) (Different cover artwork)
- There is no mention of the coupons. This might have been decided later.
Ultimate Warrior’s Workout – WWF Illustrated Action book $2.95
When I get My Hands On – WWF Illustrated Action book $2.95
Nintendo Comics System Vol. 2 #12 $1.50
Adventures of the Super Mario Brothers Vol. 2 #12 $1.50

Page 110
Magnus, Rai, & WWF ads

Page 111
Harbinger, Solar, & WWF ads

September 1991
Page 105
Magnus: Robot Fighter #9 32pg $1.95
The Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #2 (of 4) $1.95
Solar Man of the Atom #6 32pg $1.95
X-O Manowar #1 $1.95 (Spotlight On)
Harbinger #2 $1.95 (no mention of coupons)

Page 106
X-O, Vintage Magnus, & Solar ad

Page 107
Magnus, WWF, & Harbinger ad
Page 108
Harbinger ad about Harbinger #0 coupons.

Page 109
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #6 $2.50

Between page 112 & 113
Full color cardstock insert.
X-O ad on one side (I have 2 copies and one is hand signed by Bob Layton)
Harbinger ad on the other side.

October 1991
Page 127
Magnus: Robot Fighter #10 32pg $1.95
Solar Man of the Atom #7 32pg $1.95
Harbinger #3 $1.95 (no mention of coupons)
Rai #1 1.95 (Spotlight on)

Page 128
Harbinger, Solar, & X-O ad

Page 129
Magnus, Rai, Vintage Magnus, & WWF ad.

Page 130
Offered Again
Solar 1 & 2
X-O Manowar #2 $1.95
The Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #3 (of 4) $1.95
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #7 $2.50

November 1991
Page 110 & 111 Ads (Shows the unpublished covers to Steel Nation Vol.1 & Vol.2)
Special note: “If you read the original comics version of Steel Nation, you know that the story was too big to be wedged into the usual twenty-two pages per issue that most comics offer. We averaged over 28 pages per issue, and it still wasn’t enough. These special volumes showcase the uncut version of Steel nation, including never-before-seen pages that were edited out of the original. Also, a magnificent 2 part connecting cover by David Lapham and Bob Layton adorn both volumes of Steel Nation. No Magnus fan can do without these books.”

Page 112
The Best of Turok Vol.1 48pg $4.95 (Spotlight on)
Magnus: Robot Fighter #11 32pg $1.95
Solar Man of the Atom #8 32pg $1.95
Harbinger #4 $1.95
The Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #4 (of 4) $1.95
Rai #2 1.95
Magnus: Steel Nation Vols. 1& 2 64pg $5.95

Page 113
X-O Manowar #3 $1.95
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #8 $2.50

December 1991
The Best of Turok Vol. 2 48pg $4.95
Harbinger #5 $2.50
Magnus: Robot Fighter #12 $3.25 (no mention of Turok)
Rai #3 $1.95
Shadowman #1 $2.50 (Spotlight On)
Solar Man of the Atom #9 40pg $2.25
X-O Manowar #4 $1.95
World Wrestling Federation Battlemania #9 $2.50

Pages 104 & 105
Valiant ads for all titles

Page 106
Shadowman ad

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:37:13 am 
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This part was amusing... “Retailers! The Spectacular 6’ x 2.5’ TEKLA poster is coming! The most
fantastic female of the future will help you sell Magnus Robot Fighter.”
Also, it's too bad the best of Turok Vol. 1&2 did not see the light of day.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:32:26 am 
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anyone paying attention to the change in the cost of comics over this year??? Most of the early offerings were in the $1.50 range...by the end of the year they were $2.50+(christ, mag 12 was 3.25 cover)...that is a HUGE increase. Did production costs change that much??? Were ALL comic prices doing that same thing...i.e did marvel and DC cover prices increase on the same order?

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Did someone call for a Hired Gun?
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myron wrote:
anyone paying attention to the change in the cost of comics over this year??? Most of the early offerings were in the $1.50 range...by the end of the year they were $2.50+(christ, mag 12 was 3.25 cover)...that is a HUGE increase. Did production costs change that much??? Were ALL comic prices doing that same thing...i.e did marvel and DC cover prices increase on the same order?


Magnus 12 was to be 40pages so that would explain some of the price increase.

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myron wrote:
anyone paying attention to the change in the cost of comics over this year??? Most of the early offerings were in the $1.50 range...by the end of the year they were $2.50+(christ, mag 12 was 3.25 cover)...that is a HUGE increase. Did production costs change that much??? Were ALL comic prices doing that same thing...i.e did marvel and DC cover prices increase on the same order?


Marvel was publishing most of their major titles 16 or 18 times a year around that time, and hence if you look at some issues of Wolverine they will be dated "early June" or "late June" and so forth. Also there was around this time a change in the paper and cover stock that the majors were using to the nice heavy stuff that really let the colors of the comics come alive, and they charged more for this. I believe some books were done in both formats, with the fancy paper, and the traditional news pulp that had always been used. Also, Marvel was hurting at the time, they had market share but were on the brink of bankruptcy and had no choice but to increase prices.


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Great stuff X-O! :thumb:

I missed a lot of this stuff in Previews at first, and only started picking up Valiants on the recommendation of a dude in an LCS.

Even before the stuff started to take off in value Don Thompson of CBG used to rave about how good Valiant was, and that guy was always right as far as my tastes.

I saved a bunch of my old Previews, too. Now you've got me wanting to go through them again.


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Great stuff X-O! :thumb:

I missed a lot of this stuff in Previews at first, and only started picking up Valiants on the recommendation of a dude in an LCS.

Even before the stuff started to take off in value Don Thompson of CBG used to rave about how good Valiant was, and that guy was always right as far as my tastes.

I saved a bunch of my old Previews, too. Now you've got me wanting to go through them again.


Don Thompson...man, that takes me back.

Did you know, Don Thompson won the original cover to Flash #123 in 1961? Yup. Apparently it hung in the offices of CBG for YEARS.


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anyone paying attention to the change in the cost of comics over this year??? Most of the early offerings were in the $1.50 range...by the end of the year they were $2.50+(christ, mag 12 was 3.25 cover)...that is a HUGE increase
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I noticed that too. It's a shame that all comics started doing this cause I would probably still buy new books if the prices had not gotten so ridiculously out of line.


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ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
Did you know, Don Thompson won the original cover to Flash #123 in 1961? Yup. Apparently it hung in the offices of CBG for YEARS.


That's pretty cool! Man, I would love to take a look at the Thompsons' collection. Must be museum quality.


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i was very suprised to see the listing in the old previews for the Magnus Steel nation vol.1 & v.2 uncut!!!!! I think thats huge! So somewhere in this universe that we live in there is a "directors cut" of magnus 1-4..simply amazing. Those books are so good, it just blows my mind. It also blows my mind that after all these years we are finding out new info on the publishing history of valiant. Now based on that is it possible to reprint magnus 0-4 because they dont contain any "valiant" characters, so if you had the rights to reprint magnus, you know, you could reprint those books , and maybe even the directors cut!!!


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Thought this info should be bumped up.

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Lazarus Award winner of the week, too.

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good call... :thumb:

more stuff like this should be talked about.

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