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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:52:58 pm 
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Does anyone know of a complete list of newstand V1 Valiants?

Were there any V2 or V3 newstand variants?---Steve


A number of newsstand editions have been found. We do not know if it's a complete list. Only thing we know for sure are the dates when they might have been published.

Summary of known newsstands with prices:
Bloodshot 30-48 (30, 31, 32 are price variants)
Destroyer #0 (price variant, different paper stock)
Magnus 55-64 (only corrected version found for issue 57)
Ninjak 0, 00, 15-26
Solar 46-49, 51-60
Turok 22-32
Visitor 1-11
Visitor vs. Valiant Universe #1, 2 (both are price variants and have different paper stock)
X-O Manowar 43-49, 50X, 50O, 51-62 (43 is a price variant)

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Antiquities War 1
Antiquities War 2 (not actually marked "newsstand", but different UPC box from "direct")
Antiquities War 3 (different UPC from direct)
Antiquities War 4
Ice Age 3, 4
Fallen Empires 1 (different cover image)
Fallen Empires 2 (different cover image)
Shadow Mage 1 (sticker over UPC area)
Shadow Mage 2 (different UPC from direct)
Shadow Mage 3 (different UPC from direct)
Shadow Mage 4 (different UPC from direct)

Destroyer 0 and Visitor vs 1 & 2 were published with different paper for the cover. They also had different price from the direct editions.

Apart from Destroyer 0 and Visitor vs 1 & 2 some other newsstand issues have different price. See this thread: http://valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=413027#413027

There are also a number of comics that were published in the right time frame, but for which no newsstand version has been reported. We can not know if this is because they were never published or if they have simply not been sighted. Based on Brother J's list of books published during the right period (a list of possible candidates), a few comments are made below. This is just an addendum and should not be confused with the list of known newsstand editions. For many of them, it is likely that no newsstand version ever was published.

Armorines #11, 12 (No Armorines newsstand has ever been reported)
Bloodshot #26-51, Last Stand (know of 30-48)
Destroyer #0 (known, has different cover price)
Eternal Warrior #32-50, Wings Special, Fist and Steel #1, 2 (No Eternal Warrior newsstand has ever been reported)
Geomancer #6-8 (No Geomancer newsstand has ever been reported)
HARD Corps #28-30 (No HARD Corps newsstand has ever been reported)
Harbinger #39-41 (No Harbinger newsstand has ever been reported)
Magnus #46-64 (know of 55-64)
Ninjak #0, 00, 14-26 (know of 0, 00, 15-26)
Outcast Special #1 (Has not been reported)
Psi-Lords #8-10 (No Psi-Lords newsstand has ever been reported)
Punx #1-3, Manga Special (No Punx newsstand has ever been reported)
Rai #31-33 (No Rai newsstand has ever been reported)
Second Life Dr. Mirage #17, 18 (No Dr Mirage newsstand has ever been reported)
Secret Weapons #19-21 (No Secret Weapons newsstand has ever been reported)
Shadowman #35-43 (No Shadowman newsstand has ever been reported)
Solar #43-60 (know of 46-49, 51-60)
Timewalker #0, 5-15 (No Timewalker newsstand has ever been reported)
Turok #0, 22-47, the Hunted #1, 2 (know of 22-32)
Visitor #1-13 (know of 1-11)
Visitor vs. Valiant Universe #1, 2 (both known, have different cover price and UPC box)
X-O Manowar (know of 43-49, 50X, 50O, 51-62).

/Magnus

Edited for mrwoogie's, Dan's, GJB's, Mr.V's, Rufusharley's, caxiotis', mjm00014's, hulk181man's, Tim's, tarheelmarine's, iggy101us's and wallywest's additions. Also edited for clarity.


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I have Magnus 63-64 and Solar 59-60 Newsstand copies...

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Interesting list. Thanks for posting it, Magnus. It looks like it might be a long, ongoing quest to put together a complete set of newstand editions.---Steve


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Picked out some newsstand issues from a collection that I had, didn't know they were in there. Not really collecting these specifically, but I've starting saving them when I run into them. These aren't price variants, just says 'newsstand sales' in the upc instead of 'direct sales'. The new ones:

Bloodshot 37 40 42 43 46 47
X-O 60

I also previously acquired

Magnus 63 64
Solar 59 60
Ninjak 00

Plus the price variant Vis v Val U 1 and 2

[posting this twice because this list looks more complete than the other one....]

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[posting this twice because this list looks more complete than the other one....]


List updated.

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I have yet to see one of these.... now I haveta go looking through all the LCS's in the area.. again...........



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I have yet to see one of these.... now I haveta go looking through all the LCS's in the area.. again...........



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Your best bet for newsstand versions would be flea markets and yard sales.

99% of the time LCS's will have the Direct versions.


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Crikey, I didn't realize there were so many of these. Are the cover prices different?

How much do you guys pay for these?


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Crikey, I didn't realize there were so many of these. Are the cover prices different?

How much do you guys pay for these?


It's the ones in paranthesis that are confirmed. Additions to the list are welcome. If nothing else is noted, only the box differs (saying Direct or Newsstand edition). In short, only Destroyer 0 and the Vistor vs the Valiant Universe titles have different cover prices. Apart from these (which I don't have) they sell cheap.

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I just looked through my collection for newsstand versions.
Found a few more I didn't know I had and have about 20 or so now.

I can add to the list of confirmed newsstand versions of Bloodshot 32, 41 ,Visitor 2 and XO 58.

I am real curious how many more can be confirmed.
I'd say many on the release date list don't exist as newsstand versions.
If I were to speculate, I'd guess that when they started doing some books or series as newsstand (i.e. Bloodshot) the rest of the line had
the upc boxes updated to say Direct Sales, even if a newsstand version did not exist.
Titles that were ending soon (i.e. HARD Corps, Harbinger, Psi Lords, Secret Weapons etc.)
that have not been confirmed are probably safe bets. I'd love to be proven wrong however and would love to see a definitive list.
Board members start looking! :thumb:
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I just looked through my collection for newsstand versions. Found a few more I didn't know I had and have about 20 or so now.


Thanks, if you found doubles we might have more to discuss.

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I can add to the list of confirmed newsstand versions of Bloodshot 32, 41 ,Visitor 2 and XO 58.


List updated.

Quote:
I am real curious how many more can be confirmed.
I'd say many on the release date list don't exist as newsstand versions.
If I were to speculate, I'd guess that when they started doing some books or series as newsstand (i.e. Bloodshot) the rest of the line had
the upc boxes updated to say Direct Sales, even if a newsstand version did not exist.
Titles that were ending soon (i.e. HARD Corps, Harbinger, Psi Lords, Secret Weapons etc.)
that have not been confirmed are probably safe bets. I'd love to be proven wrong however and would love to see a definitive list.
Board members start looking! :thumb:
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Good points!

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I can confirm a few more from my collection,

X-O #43,#47
Ninjak #15,#21,#22
Turok #26,27
Visitor #3
Bloodshot #33,#34,#36


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I can confirm a few more from my collection,

X-O #43,#47
Ninjak #15,#21,#22
Turok #26,27
Visitor #3
Bloodshot #33,#34,#36


Thanks, list updated.

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Thanks, if you found doubles we might have more to discuss.



No doubles unfortunately. There were a few regional shops I found a few of these a while back ago.
I plan to check back there soon for a closer look.
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I can now confirm Ninjak #20. Thanks to you guys, I'm on a new Valiant collecting binge. :atomic:


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I can now confirm Ninjak #20. Thanks to you guys, I'm on a new Valiant collecting binge. :atomic:


That's the risk of lists like this :) . I hope they are still cheap when I start collecting them. Ninjak 20 added. Maybe we can soon start getting scans.

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That's the risk of lists like this :) . I hope they are still cheap when I start collecting them. Ninjak 20 added. Maybe we can soon start getting scans.

/Magnus


Yep, If you are collecting these issues, it gives you a reason to revisit shops you've market off your list. It's part of the fun.

I don't think you need to worry about cost, they are few and far between at my local shops. That should help them fly under the radar. Now if Greg puts them into the price guide, that would be a different story. When I hit the Pittsburgh Comicon, most of the vendors with walled Valiants were using Greg's site as a guide for prices.

I can provide scans if so desired.


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Bloodshot #31 and X-O #46 are confirmed.


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Bloodshot #31 and X-O #46 are confirmed.


Thanks, you're on a roll.

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Thanks, you're on a roll.

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Like I said, binge. :wink:


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So right now, the newsstand titles are

Bloodshot
Magnus
Ninjak
Solar
Turok
Visitor
X-O Manowar

I'm surprised that Eternal Warrior didn't make the newsstand cut, seemingly. The other titles, as others have speculated, were probably too close to cancellation to warrant the expansion in their distribution and can probably be removed from consideration...

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So right now, the newsstand titles are

Bloodshot
Magnus
Ninjak
Solar
Turok
Visitor
X-O Manowar

I'm surprised that Eternal Warrior didn't make the newsstand cut, seemingly. The other titles, as others have speculated, were probably too close to cancellation to warrant the expansion in their distribution and can probably be removed from consideration...


You forgot to add the "Destroyer" #0 and "Visitor vs. The Valiant Universe" titles. Could there possiby be an "Outcast" newstand?


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mrwoogieman wrote:
So right now, the newsstand titles are

Bloodshot
Magnus
Ninjak
Solar
Turok
Visitor
X-O Manowar

I'm surprised that Eternal Warrior didn't make the newsstand cut, seemingly. The other titles, as others have speculated, were probably too close to cancellation to warrant the expansion in their distribution and can probably be removed from consideration...


You forgot to add the "Destroyer" #0 and "Visitor vs. The Valiant Universe" titles. Could there possiby be an "Outcast" newstand?


Those two off-shoot titles would be represented on the list like this

Bloodshot
Magnus
Ninjak
Solar/Destroyer one shot
Turok
Visitor/Vis v. Val U
X-O Manowar

rather than having their own slot. My guess is no for the Outcast, no for the tail ends of the early cancellation titles and no for the one shot/specials like BS Last Stand, the Yearbooks, Turok The Hunted, etc.

EW really seems to be the only one that should be there but isn't as yet.

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Those two off-shoot titles would be represented on the list like this

Bloodshot
Magnus
Ninjak
Solar/Destroyer one shot
Turok
Visitor/Vis v. Val U
X-O Manowar

rather than having their own slot. My guess is no for the Outcast, no for the tail ends of the early cancellation titles and no for the one shot/specials like BS Last Stand, the Yearbooks, Turok The Hunted, etc.

EW really seems to be the only one that should be there but isn't as yet.


How was the original list compiled? I know it says Brother J created it from release dates, but what does that mean?


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How was the original list compiled? I know it says Brother J created it from release dates, but what does that mean?


http://valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=640

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