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Re: DBS's 100% CONFIRMED "Rare" Print Run Info

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:breakingnews:
Update:

500 copies - Bloodshot Reborn #14 (Giorello 1:50 B&W Sketch Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot Reborn #10 (Lemire 1:100 Line Variant)
500 copies Harbinger #8 (Lemire 1:125 Line Variant)
600 copies - Bloodshot Reborn #14 (Lemire 1:120 Line Variant)
NOTE: Dinesh stated that retailers qualified/ordered 180 copies of the Harbinger #8 (Lemire 1:125 Line Variant). At the time, 1,000 copies were generally printed for variants like this; however, Dinesh believes that he made an exception to this policy/rule and 500 were printed. It is unknown if the additional copies were distributed to staff, artists, writers, partners, gifts, etc.
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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:56:36 pm
Juki wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:47:43 pm
DirtbagSailor wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:30:35 am
1st Mirror cover.
Ok... L&DofTH first Mirror cover ever

Were any of the glass covers the first glass cover?
Well, LADOTH had the first ever mirror cover and second ever glass cover. :wink:

https://www.cbr.com/valiant-tempered-gl ... ant-cover/
Ok... so, Bloodshot Rising Spirit #1 1:250 Glass Variant was the first “tempered glass comic”
and L&DofTH #1/1:250 Glass Variant was the “2nd ever tempered glass comic,” but... the first ever glass mirrored comic.

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DBS....
Dino’s quote about Harbinger 8 1:120 Lemire Variant:

”I'd have to check the purchase order but my memory is that there were approx. 180 qualifying copies of the Harbinger #8 1:125. This was early enough that I was still making sure we printed 1,000 copies of any variant but I can't remember if I made an exception on this one. I do remember thinking about making an exception. My guess is we printed 500 of these. In addition to the 180 we would have sent comps to creators, given copies to staff and gifted copies to partners.”


I take the above statement as meaning there were 500 printed in total (180 earned plus 320 for extras, giveaways, etc.) of Harbinger 8 1:120.

The interesting thing to me is that he brought up again the fact that extra issues were destroyed when talking about Bloodshot Reborn issue #14 1:120 variant.

Dino quote about Bloodshot Reborn #14 1:120:

“While copies ordered (or earned) is the primary factor there are many other factors that determine a print run and those factors change with each situation. In this specific case of the Bloodshot Reborn 14 1:50 cover, orders at the time of printing qualified for just over 200 copies. Diamond requested 350 copies anticipating orders increasing in the days to follow, re-orders, damages etc. We printed 500 anticipating even more orders than Diamond, additional damages, comps, gifts etc. The excess was housed secretly near the offices for about a year after which time they were securely destroyed.“


I enjoy looking at the print numbers for VEI books and discussing their methods for the numbers. But, for some strange reason it bothers me a little about the destruction of extra books. I guess I like knowing the exact print numbers. But, when destruction of extra books occurs after a year it brings that unknown factor of “ How many were destroyed?” This method that was used makes perfect sense (even though it is a little maddening to me) because the cost of printing 100 or 500 books is probably about the same. So.... why not print a few hundred extra (to make sure that you do have enough) and then destroy the extras after a year. I give kudos to VEI for actually destroying the extras. I don’t think any other comic company has/or would do that on a routine basis to ensure their variant comics are truly as limited as possible. Other companies would just store the rest.
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Juki wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:35:11 am
and then destroy the extras after a year. I give kudos to VEI for actually destroying the extras. I don’t think any other comic company has/or would do that on a routine basis to ensure their variant comics are truly as limited as possible. Other companies would just store the rest.
Major kudos. :clap: :clap: :clap:

The largest publisher in the industry dumps substantial numbers of leftover variants completely flooding the market and making fools of their fans that paid up for the books when they first came out. Valiant and Usagi Yojimbo are the only books where I actively try and get all variants.

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Juki wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:35:11 am
DBS....
Dino’s quote about Harbinger 8 1:120 Lemire Variant:

I take the above statement as meaning there were 500 printed in total (180 earned plus 320 for extras, giveaways, etc.) of Harbinger 8 1:120
You are 100% right, and all posts have been corrected to reflect this.

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DBS:

You might want to put a note/disclaimer in the beginning of the very first post that while these are the number that were printed that copies beyond those earned, used for damages and given as comps to artists/partners the rest of the print run was destroyed. The actual number of these books that exists is less than the print runs.

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magnus20009 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:11:25 pm
You might want to put a note/disclaimer in the beginning of the very first post that while these are the number that were printed that copies beyond those earned, used for damages and given as comps to artists/partners the rest of the print run was destroyed. The actual number of these books that exists is less than the print runs.
I will do exactly that.

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All that wasted paper and ink! MEH!

They could have just marked the covers in a way (cut off a corner) so they wouldn't be a collectible copies anymore and given away to charities.

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Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:35:20 am
The largest publisher in the industry dumps substantial numbers of leftover variants completely flooding the market and making fools of their fans that paid up for the books when they first came out.
I wonder how many people paying hundreds (or thousands) of dollars for the Ultimate Fallout #4 1:25 variant realize it was available in $5 packs of comics at Five Below discount stores, after being sold by the hundreds (or thousands) for pennies in one of the Marvel variant leftovers sales.

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greg wrote:
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magnus20009 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:35:20 am
The largest publisher in the industry dumps substantial numbers of leftover variants completely flooding the market and making fools of their fans that paid up for the books when they first came out.
I wonder how many people paying hundreds (or thousands) of dollars for the Ultimate Fallout #4 1:25 variant realize it was available in $5 packs of comics at Five Below discount stores, after being sold by the hundreds (or thousands) for pennies in one of the Marvel variant leftovers sales.
I tried to track that down when I heard that those were in discount packs, but with no luck.
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