Anyone have a working link to VH1 Shadowman #2 unpublished Englehart plot?

[Oxmyx]

I was looking at some old old posts from like 2006 and the link posted there didn't work.

But apparently it's worth the read but a different direction for the character than Shooter wrote.

[Sunlight on Snow]

Unfortunately I didn't download those image either.

Maybe someone around here did and can upload them again?

5 scanned images each of Englehart's plots for XO #5 and SM #2.

Thanks in advance!

[Sunlight on Snow]

Here's what Englehart said on his (now inactive) homepage:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120403034 ... 201-2.html

Shadowman #1-2

I co-created SHADOWMAN with artist David Lapham, later famous for Stray Bullets. We took full advantage of Jim Shooter's promise that I could write SHADOWMAN my way if I wrote X-O MANOWAR his way. But once he read the first issue, Jim couldn't stand the deviation from his style. He apologized profusely and sincerely, even telling me to tell people he'd been unable to follow through - but he just couldn't be happy with a voice so different from his own.

Nevertheless, SHADOWMAN went on to become one of Valiant's top comics titles, and a top video game title as well.

NOTES:

2: Plotted by me, written by Faye Perozich and Jim Shooter.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120213220 ... 201-5.html

X-O Manowar #1-5

Jim Shooter had drawn a lesson from Marvel's success: he felt it stemmed from Stan Lee's writing all the titles. Therefore, when Jim began Valiant, he wanted all the books to sound the same, and he made me a deal: write his flagship title in his style, and then I could do the next title my way. What the heck; I liked Jim.

NOTES:

1: Plotted by Jim Shooter, scripted by me.

3: Guest-starring X-Caliber™ from Coyote™. As discussed there, Marvel tried to maintain that they owned every name beginning with "X" and came after X-O, so Jim licensed my character to bolster his argument that they didn't.

5: Plotted by me, written by Jim and Bob Layton.

RETRIBUTION: By the time this collection came out, Jim and Marvel had made some sort of arrangement, and X-Caliber's name was changed in the reprint.

[Sunlight on Snow]

Needless to say Shooter's version of the story--why Englehart had to go--is slightly different as usual.

Something about E. not being able to stick to continuity so Shooter had to rewrite stuff IIRC.

The 2 different Lydias probably didn't help E. much either.

[Ryan]

I have the 5 images of the Shadowman plot, don't have the X-O #5. Where to upload?

[Oxmyx]

Needless to say Shooter's version of the story--why Englehart had to go--is slightly different as usual.

Something about E. not being able to stick to continuity so Shooter had to rewrite stuff IIRC.

The 2 different Lydias probably didn't help E. much either.

Was "the two different Lydias" supposed to be a link? It didn't work for me.

But great info

[Sunlight on Snow]

Needless to say Shooter's version of the story--why Englehart had to go--is slightly different as usual.

Something about E. not being able to stick to continuity so Shooter had to rewrite stuff IIRC.

The 2 different Lydias probably didn't help E. much either.

Was "the two different Lydias" supposed to be a link? It didn't work for me.

But great info

Yes, to one of your other threads: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53117

The first link didn't work because I forgot to copy the entire url; apparently it's not working without the leading "http://".