Gt V #141 guest says "I don't wanna get too far in th weeds"
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Gt V #141 guest says "I don't wanna get too far in th weeds"
Guest being Valiant Senior Editor, and question being about what the hell happened with Bloodshot Rising Spirit
Great way to not answer a question
Props to the hosts for trying to ask a "hard question"
About time index 24:00
Great way to not answer a question
Props to the hosts for trying to ask a "hard question"
About time index 24:00
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My take was that he acknowledged the misstep, learned from it and is actively working to avoid the same pitfalls in the future.
How would you answer, if you were in that position, without alienating creative partners?
How would you answer, if you were in that position, without alienating creative partners?
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Regarding the pre-orders for Psi-Lords, Myers mentions that they’re not paid for in advance. That might be true for retailers, but DCBS charges for the entire batch of pre-orders at the beginning. The same might be true of other retailers.
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I hear what you are saying, and I can see where it can be seen as a the best response in that situation. However your summary (acknowledgement, learned, avoiding) feels much more direct than his actual from the interview. If he did own responsibility and acknowledge the misstep he did it in a roundabout way I found distasteful for my tastessonicdan wrote:My take was that he acknowledged the misstep, learned from it and is actively working to avoid the same pitfalls in the future.
How would you answer, if you were in that position, without alienating creative partners?
What's funny here is that I haven't read Bloodshot Rising Spirit except issue 5 and don't really have room to comment on the quality.
However, I do have as much room as anyone else to watch the podcast and comment on his answers. I still feel he was distastefully evasive. But I do 100% understand he kinda has to stand behind his product
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The guy admitted to making a mistake. That never happens in the comic industry. I actually thought it was pretty cool that he said that, even with the "roundabout" language.
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Your bias is showing. I watched it too. He clearly took the blame and said mistakes were made on their end in the office, while letting all the creatives off the hook. Classy response, and I don't know what else you expect him to say? Were you hoping for "It was *SQUEE*, please kick my *SQUEE* in the parking lot after the podcast"?Oxmyx wrote:I hear what you are saying, and I can see where it can be seen as a the best response in that situation. However your summary (acknowledgement, learned, avoiding) feels much more direct than his actual from the interview. If he did own responsibility and acknowledge the misstep he did it in a roundabout way I found distasteful for my tastessonicdan wrote:My take was that he acknowledged the misstep, learned from it and is actively working to avoid the same pitfalls in the future.
How would you answer, if you were in that position, without alienating creative partners?
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Also, like, he's been with the company since 2012. He's at a ton of cons. Referring to him as "Valiant senior editor" and refusing to simply call him "Robert" also shows you've already made up your mind about what Valiant is doing.
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This thread has been more informative than I expected. I didn't realize how the Editor's answers were received by others. I'm fairly new to the genre of comics. But I'm not new to media in general and yes ANY media manager admitting a mistake is a big deal. I stand corrected. More or less.TheFerg714 wrote:The guy admitted to making a mistake. That never happens in the comic industry. I actually thought it was pretty cool that he said that, even with the "roundabout" language.
GammaJosh, I hope that also addresses your concerns somewhat.
As far as my bias showing, I'm not sure what bias I have, to be honest, except that I hear so much grumbling on this website about the DMG era I am pre-concerned. I say pre-concerned because I have yet to read any DMG that I know of (except Rising Spirit#5)
As far as not using his name, I think this is far less sinister than you suppose. I just couldn't remember at the time I posted and didn't feel like taking the time to edit my post.
To be honest, perhaps that does show a subconscious dismissal, and I apologise if that is so. But I think more it shows my status as a man who isn't paying close attention to ANY editors usually. I didn't learn who Warren was/is until about 8 months ago
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No worries. Robert isn't as overtly outgoing as Dinesh, but I promise he is super friendly. I wish people would give him a chance, learn his name, etc. I say this not as a personal friend of his. I really barely know him. But I have worked with him on several projects and just find him to be a good guy with legitimate love for the Valiant characters.
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What happened with Bloodshot PRS that made it a disaster or problem or misstep?
Honest question - I haven't read it nor followed it.
Honest question - I haven't read it nor followed it.
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The writers ditched the series after one issue, to be followed by two more writers (three writing shifts within 8 issues).IMJ wrote:What happened with Bloodshot PRS that made it a disaster or problem or misstep?
Honest question - I haven't read it nor followed it.
Artist ditched the book after 3 issues, and needed fill in help for those. He was followed by a rotating door of about 10 artists.
The original artist, Ken Lashley, literally admitted that guns and violence weren't his wheelhouse , so who knows who decided to hire him in the first place.
Each issue featured one big dream sequence that was retconned by the end, and overall the quality was extremely poor, from awkward, dull dialogue, to indecipherable artwork.
I sort skimmed the last few issues, so maybe it got a little better when Eliot Rahal jumped on board. I doubt it.
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In fairness to the writers and artists, editorial asked them to rewrite and draw issues several times. I think the first issue was rewritten three times as it was being drawn, requiring additional rewrites. A hot mess.TheFerg714 wrote:The writers ditched the series after one issue, to be followed by two more writers (three writing shifts within 8 issues).IMJ wrote:What happened with Bloodshot PRS that made it a disaster or problem or misstep?
Honest question - I haven't read it nor followed it.
Artist ditched the book after 3 issues, and needed fill in help for those. He was followed by a rotating door of about 10 artists.
The original artist, Ken Lashley, literally admitted that guns and violence weren't his wheelhouse , so who knows who decided to hire him in the first place.
Each issue featured one big dream sequence that was retconned by the end, and overall the quality was extremely poor, from awkward, dull dialogue, to indecipherable artwork.
I sort skimmed the last few issues, so maybe it got a little better when Eliot Rahal jumped on board. I doubt it.
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Before this series came out, Robert Meyers was taking credit for his big get with Ken Lashley and the script for issue one which I remember at a panel in 2018 he said he oversaw and thought was the best Bloodshot story anyone had every put together. To me this story is the canary in the coal mine. He seems nice (if cocky for no reason) but there must have been a reason Dinesh and Warren never put him in a creative position.nycjadie wrote:In fairness to the writers and artists, editorial asked them to rewrite and draw issues several times. I think the first issue was rewritten three times as it was being drawn, requiring additional rewrites. A hot mess.TheFerg714 wrote:The writers ditched the series after one issue, to be followed by two more writers (three writing shifts within 8 issues).IMJ wrote:What happened with Bloodshot PRS that made it a disaster or problem or misstep?
Honest question - I haven't read it nor followed it.
Artist ditched the book after 3 issues, and needed fill in help for those. He was followed by a rotating door of about 10 artists.
The original artist, Ken Lashley, literally admitted that guns and violence weren't his wheelhouse , so who knows who decided to hire him in the first place.
Each issue featured one big dream sequence that was retconned by the end, and overall the quality was extremely poor, from awkward, dull dialogue, to indecipherable artwork.
I sort skimmed the last few issues, so maybe it got a little better when Eliot Rahal jumped on board. I doubt it.