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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:20:23 pm 
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I'm listening to the podcast Get Valiant! #124 (sorry Chiclo) and they discussed getting an old copy of classic Valiant Legend of Zelda #1

Got me thinking. It hurts


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:07:49 pm 
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I consider the Nintendo books and WWF books plus the food books VH1 and am trying to build a CGC 9.8 set of all 52 Nintendo floppies, 5 WWF Floppies, and 6 Food floppies.

I have the list as

Nintendo Regular Issues
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 1 (2/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 2 (3/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 3 (4/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 4 (5/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 5 (6/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 7 (8/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 8 (9/91,Valiant)
 Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 9 (10/91,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 1 (1990,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 1 No Price Variant (1990,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 2 (1990,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 3 (1990,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 4 (1990,Valiant)
 Captain N: The Game Master 5 (1990,Valiant)
 Game Boy 1 (1990,Valiant)
 Game Boy 2 (1990,Valiant)
 Game Boy 3 (1990,Valiant)
 Game Boy 4 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 1 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 1 (1990,Valiant) - No Price Variant
 Legend of Zelda 2 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 3 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 4 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 5 (1990,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 1 Second Printing (2/91,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 2 Second Printing (3/91,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 3 Second Printing (4/91,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 4 Second Printing (5/91,Valiant)
 Legend of Zelda 5 Second Printing (6/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 1 (2/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 2 (3/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 3 (4/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 4 (5/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 5 (6/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 6 (7/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 7 (8/91,Valiant) (sometimes thought of as Zelda 7)
 Nintendo Comics System 8 (9/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System 9 (10/91,Valiant)
 Nintendo Comics System Sneak Preview (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 1 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 2 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 3 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 4 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 5 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 6 (1990,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 1 (2/91,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 2 (3/91,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 3 (4/91,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 4 (5/91,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. 5 (6/91,Valiant)
 Super Mario Bros. Special Edition (1991,Valiant)
SUPER MARIO BROS. ADVENTURES COMICS AND CASSETTE

Nintendo Illustrated Action Books
 Valiant Illustrated Action Books - MEET THE KOOPA KIDS
 Valiant Illustrated Action Books - BATTLE AGAINST BOWSER
 Valiant Illustrated Action Books - TATANGA INVADES EARTH
 Valiant Illustrated Action Books - MARIO'S SPECIAL POWERS

Nintendo Trade Paperbacks
NINTENDO COMICS SYSTEM TPB 1
NINTENDO COMICS SYSTEM TPB 1 - No Cover Price
NINTENDO COMICS SYSTEM TPB 2 - Black Cover
NINTENDO COMICS SYSTEM TPB 2 - Yellow Cover

Nintendo Hardcovers
The Best of Super Mario Bros - with Valiant Logo on Spine
The Best of Super Mario Bros - with Mallard Logo on Spine
The Best of Nintendo Comics System (1990 Valiant) - with Valiant Logo on Spine
The Best of Nintendo Comics System (1990 Valiant) - with Mallard Logo on Spine

WWF Books
WWF BATTLEMANIA ISSUE#1 AUGUST 1991 2.50
WWF BATTLEMANIA ISSUE#2 SEPTEMBER 1991 2.50
WWF BATTLEMANIA ISSUE#3 NOVEMBER 1991 2.50
WWF BATTLEMANIA ISSUE#4 DECEMBER 1991 2.50
WWF BATTLEMANIA ISSUE#5 MARCH 1992 2.50
WWF ULTIMATE WARRIOR'S WORKOUT VALIANT ILLUSTRATED ACTION BOOKS 1991 2.95
WWF LIFESTYLES OF THE BRUTAL AND INFAMOUS VALIANT ILLUSTRATED ACTION BOOKS 1991 2.95
WWF OUT OF THE RING CHALLENGES VALIANT ILLUSTRATED ACTION BOOKS 1991 2.95
WWF WAIT TILL I GET MY HANDS ON...VALIANT ILLUSTRATED ACTION BOOKS 1991 2.95

Food
Adventures of the O nn (1993,Valiant)
Cheesasaurus Rex 1
Cheesasaurus Rex 2 - English
Cheesasaurus Rex 2 - Spanish
 Kenny Kid and Hop Hop (KFC) - English
 Kenny Kid and Hop Hop (KFC) - Spanish
 


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:09:22 pm 
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
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Those books do seem to get better with age, but VH1 (specifically pre-Unity Valiant) is "Valiant Heroes 1". Licensed Nintendo, wrestling, and food products paid some of the bills for Valiant to create the Valiant Universe. They're not technically part of it, kind of like Spider-Man Hostess fruit pie and cupcake stories aren't Marvel Universe. :)

I like 'em, but they're different.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:07:45 pm 
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greg wrote:
Those books do seem to get better with age, but VH1 (specifically pre-Unity Valiant) is "Valiant Heroes 1". Licensed Nintendo, wrestling, and food products paid some of the bills for Valiant to create the Valiant Universe. They're not technically part of it, kind of like Spider-Man Hostess fruit pie and cupcake stories aren't Marvel Universe. :)

I like 'em, but they're different.


I agree with this. The licensed books are very distinct from the hero books. If you use VH1 to refer to just the heroes then they obviously are not part of that universe. If you look at it for short hand for the first incarnation of Valiant publishing then the books are part of the original Valiant publisher.

Of course I have OCD which is why I am trying to get everything Valiant published and everything Acclaim published (although only raw for Acclaim).

I even have 51 of the 52 Classics Illustrated they published facepalm I know I need help :screwy:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:10:54 am 
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
Especially "dude." And "balls." Those terms work in the tech industry.
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I understand that one of those Classic Illustrated is stupidly rare.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:15:55 am 
Psssst. Hey buddy, need another CGC fix?
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We used to call the Nintendo/WWF books "Pre-Hero" back in the day, as an homage to the Marvel Silver Age term.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:48:06 pm 
Nice art! (I used to own that.)
Nice art! (I used to own that.)
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nycjadie wrote:
I understand that one of those Classic Illustrated is stupidly rare.


Aye yep, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass sells for about $100.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:15:37 pm 
Now I bet you're all going to want me to drag it out and show you.
Now I bet you're all going to want me to drag it out and show you.
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magnus20009 wrote:
I even have 51 of the 52 Classics Illustrated they published facepalm I know I need help :screwy:

I colored a few pages in those.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:29:15 pm 
Just jumpin' through time arcs, that's all.
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I used to ignore them but recently I've come to appreciate them. If you're a fan of Pre-Unity Valiant it's cool to see the genesis of the 'Pre-Unity style': fixed grid layouts, clear storytelling over flashy artwork, bright watercolor coloring, a mix of industry veterans (Ditko, Gray Morrow, Nichols, Layton, Stan Drake) and young newcomers like Lapham and some of the Knob row people. It's really cool to see how they then applied that same formula to the more mature superhero line and became a sensation for a time. Even though the stories are aimed at a younger audience, they're still solid and fun. To be honest at this point in my life I prefer the Nintendo/WWF era stuff to a lot of what's come out of Valiant since Unity.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:26:14 am 
Psssst. Hey buddy, need another CGC fix?
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Ryan wrote:
I used to ignore them but recently I've come to appreciate them. If you're a fan of Pre-Unity Valiant it's cool to see the genesis of the 'Pre-Unity style': fixed grid layouts, clear storytelling over flashy artwork, bright watercolor coloring, a mix of industry veterans (Ditko, Gray Morrow, Nichols, Layton, Stan Drake) and young newcomers like Lapham and some of the Knob row people. It's really cool to see how they then applied that same formula to the more mature superhero line and became a sensation for a time. Even though the stories are aimed at a younger audience, they're still solid and fun. To be honest at this point in my life I prefer the Nintendo/WWF era stuff to a lot of what's come out of Valiant since Unity.


The is also some BWS art and one of the Captain N's is Quesada's first work. They have above average stories since Shooter, if he did not write them himself, had his iron fist looming over the whole operation. I gave my kids the hardcovers and they were read repeatedly.


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