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LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.

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soundwave wrote:
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May I know what does the LW stand for? Thanks!


712 copies of Archer & Armstrong #1 LW 1:100
1267 copies of Bloodshot #1 LW 1:50
“Line Wide”.... for instance... for this comic: 712 copies of Archer & Armstrong #1 LW 1:100

For every 100 Valiant comics of ANY Valiant title ordered by the comic shop for that month... they could order 1 Archer and Armstrong #1 1:100. So, the 100 comics ordered could have been 25 A and A, 25 Bloodshot, 25 Harbinger, and 25 EW.

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Thanks all for the swift responses!! :thumb:

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:24:34 am
LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.
Can you sell me a few Harbinger #8 LWs Nm cheaply? Haha, I don’t ever see this book and luv the cover.

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Juki wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35:52 am
magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:24:34 am
LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.
Can you sell me a few Harbinger #8 LWs Nm cheaply? Haha, I don’t ever see this book and luv the cover.
You just need to be patient. I bought my 9.8 for $275 last year. Significantly less than the 9.8 for $800 that has been on eBay for a donkey’s age.

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I have a 9.8, as well as an extra raw copy available. Just haven’t listed everything yet.

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magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:58:14 am
Juki wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35:52 am
magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:24:34 am
LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.
Can you sell me a few Harbinger #8 LWs Nm cheaply? Haha, I don’t ever see this book and luv the cover.
I was just joking around about you “having extra copies for cheap.” I personally think that this is “the most desirable linewide.” 2nd on that list would be Bloodshot Reborn 1 black and white LaRosa.

... but I do have one Harbinger 8 linewide... just never see it for sale. I understand what you are saying about more copies being available in the market for LW comics.

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Updated through May 2020. Newly added incentive books are:

89 copies of Quantum & Woody (2020) #1 1:100
90 copies of X-O Manowar (2020) #1 1:250
174 copies of Quantum & Woody (2020) #3 1:20
192 copies of Quantum & Woody (2020) #2 1:20
279 copies of Doctor Tomorrow #1 1:25
891 copies of X-O Manowar (2020) #1 1:25

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What about the 1:100 Secret Weapons #1 Signature Series variant cover?

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What about the 1:100 Secret Weapons #1 Signature Series variant cover?
There is no 1:100 Secret Weapons incentive in my list of the 940 or incentive covers (nor does Greg have one listed in the price guide).

I am a bit confused about what ended up happening with this book as it was solicited as a 1:100 book and also as VEI’s first signature series book. Yet 34 ended up in CGC Signature series slabs (and 2 in qualified slabs) and a bunch in CGCS autographed slabs. There were also a few released that were not in slabs but still autographed (I have never seen a non-autographed copy).

Since I am not sure if it ended up being a regular incentive or how witnessed signatures were slabbed (as if it went out signed all graded copies would be qualified) so I left it off the regular incentive cover list and chose to think or it more like a gold/retailer/convention cover. I don’t know if it was a straight 1:100 incentive or if it ended up being distributed differently or in multiple ways.

I guess you could say my 1000 incentive covers is all non-autographed incentives :lol:

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Hi. How about Kenny Kid Hop Hop the Valiant KFC giveaway. Can't seem to find any for sale. As a completest
I will of course need that issue. How rare is the English and Spanish version.

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Hi. How about Kenny Kid Hop Hop the Valiant KFC giveaway. Can't seem to find any for sale. As a completest
I will of course need that issue. How rare is the English and Spanish version.
Those books were not put out by Valiant Entertainment, they were put out by the original Valiant shortly after its 1990 launch. Also they were not incentive books, something the hobby had yet to discover when they were put out.

However they are not easy to find. There was:

Adventures of the O - (6 copies graded by CGC (1 9.4, 1 9.2, 1 9.0, 2 8.5 and 1 6.5)
Cheesasaurus 1 - (7 copies graded by CGC 1 9.8, 1 9.6, 1 9.4, 1 9.2, 2 9.0 and 1 7.0). Note 1 9.0 doesn't exist anymore as I cracked it open to read.
Cheesasaurus 2 - (no copies graded by CGC)
Kenny Kid and Hop Hop (KFC) - English (No copies graded by CGC :o :o :o )
Kenny Kid and Hop Hop (KFC) - Spanish (3 copies graded by CGC (all 9.8))

Cheesasaurus 2 and Kenny Kid - English seem to be the hardest to find. Co-incidentally they are still the two I need and would be very interested in purchasing a raw copy of each.

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Cheesasaurus 1 - (7 copies graded by CGC 1 9.8, 1 9.6, 1 9.4, 1 9.2, 2 9.0 and 1 7.0).

Note 1 9.0 doesn't exist anymore as I cracked it open to read.
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Also, was it worth it?

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Also, was it worth it?
Yup because I also have the 9.6 :lol:

It’s not a long book Or a great book but it is a piece of Valiant history. I certainly wouldn’t pay the $550 a crazy seller on eBay is asking for his raw copy of it (or the $700 he is asking for Cheesasaurus 2 - in fairness his prices for non-valiant books are equally outrageous so it is not just these books he is asking 10-15x market for) but for an OCD Valiant collector if you can find it for $25-40 it is worth picking up.

I bought the 9.6 and the 9.0 off nycjadie who has the 9.8 in his personal collection.

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Magnus… Thanks for the information. Always liked your posts... Great to see you still on the boards... I have been gone a long time....

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I never looked at the census numbers for those books. I think a good number of them were books I submitted personally, or ones that I acquired (for Cheese 1 and Adventure of the O).

Never knew about the Spanish Kenny Kid books in 9.8! Wow!

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I never heard about the other books (than Cheesesaurus Rex) until now.

Here's some background information from the man himself......

http://jimshooter.com/2012/02/made-to-order.html/

The most interesting part is the comic for the Japanese video game.

Question: Shooter posted pics with English text. Is this the actual game version or a redo in English for his website?

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jduran2 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:28:27 pm
Magnus… Thanks for the information. Always liked your posts... Great to see you still on the boards... I have been gone a long time....

JD class of 2004...
Welcome back. I also was gone for a little more than a decade but when I came back I came back big time.

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magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:58:14 am
Juki wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35:52 am
magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:24:34 am
LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.
Can you sell me a few Harbinger #8 LWs Nm cheaply? Haha, I don’t ever see this book and luv the cover.
You just need to be patient. I bought my 9.8 for $275 last year. Significantly less than the 9.8 for $800 that has been on eBay for a donkey’s age.
It looks like that Harbinger 8 Lemire Variant CGC 9.8 EBay item #302839117137 just sold for $799.00 :o But, it did have free shipping!

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Juki wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:13:17 pm
magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:58:14 am
Juki wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35:52 am
magnus20009 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:24:34 am
LW stands for linewide. So for example 1:20 Stands for if a retailer ordered 20 copies of one title they would get 1 copy of the variant linewide means if they ordered, for example, 60 different VEI books they would get the variant. Anecdotally linewide books are significantly easier to find than title only books. Their prices do not reflect this as math is challenging for some people, but if you are patient then you will not have a problem. The number 1 overpriced valiant book in my
Mind is Harbinger 8 LW. Some people try to sell it for $$$ but it is very easy to find. Supply far exceeds demand.
Can you sell me a few Harbinger #8 LWs Nm cheaply? Haha, I don’t ever see this book and luv the cover.
You just need to be patient. I bought my 9.8 for $275 last year. Significantly less than the 9.8 for $800 that has been on eBay for a donkey’s age.
It looks like that Harbinger 8 Lemire Variant CGC 9.8 EBay item #302839117137 just sold for $799.00 :o But, it did have free shipping!
:o

That is great for the seller. I hope the sale goes through. The buyer certainly did not look at past sales when determining what he wanted to pay.

9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $265 Sep 6, 2019
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $149 Jul 21, 2019
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $241 Mar 10, 2019
9.8 - Sgnt series/Lemire Variant Cover/Signed by Jeff Lemire $440 Mar 4, 2019
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $275 Feb 10, 2019
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $225 Apr 1, 2018
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $218 Mar 19, 2018
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $450 May 6, 2017
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $405 Jun 3, 2016
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $178 Dec 20, 2015
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $380 Nov 29, 2015
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $404 Nov 27, 2015
9.8 - Lemire Variant Cover $275 Jul 23, 2013

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I don’t know if this one is a 9.8, but it’s very nice. I’m open to offers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293644935825


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