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Top 1000 Rarest Valiant books 2012-May 2020 Maybe...

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Well not quite 1,000. It is 942 books. After a number of weeks of work and one major spreadsheet I have finally continued on from what Greg did and used his methodology to estimate the print runs of every single ratio incentive book (1:10, 1:15, 1:20, 1:25, 1:30, 1:40, 1:50, 1:60, 1:75, 1:100, 1:200, 1:250, 1:500 and Livewide) that Valiant has released from 2012 to May 2020
Calculated from the sales numbers from Previews/Comichron 2012 through May 2020...

TOP 1000 RAREST VALIANT ACCORDING TO PREVIEWS/COMICHRON CALCULATION METHOD*
85 Harbinger Wars 2 # 1 1:250 Rarest x
87 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 9 1:50 Rarest
89 Psi-Lords # 1 1:250 Rarest x
89 Quantum & Woody (2020) # 1 1:100 Rarest x
90 X-O Manowar (2020) # 1 1:250 Rarest x
92 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 8 1:50 Rarest
94 Life & Death of Toyo Harada # 1 1:250 Rarest x
94 Livewire # 1 1:250 Rarest x
94 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 7 1:50 Rarest
95 Ninja-K # 1 1:250 Rarest x
99 Harbinger Renegade # 8 1:50 Rarest x
101 4001 AD # 4 1:100 Rarest
101 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 6 1:50 Rarest
101 Savage # 3 1:50 Rarest x
104 Harbinger Renegade # 7 1:50 Rarest
105 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 4 1:50 Rarest
106 Savage # 4 1:50 Rarest x
108 Bloodshot Salvation # 1 1:250 Rarest x
108 Ninjak # 24 1:50 Rarest
108 Ninjak # 25 1:50 Rarest
109 Fallen World # 1 1:250 Rarest
110 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 1 1:250 Rarest x
110 Ninjak # 23 1:50 Rarest
110 Ninjak # 26 1:50 Rarest
111 A&A # 4 1:50 Rarest
112 4001 AD # 3 1:100 Rarest
112 Doctor Mirage # 1 1:100 Rarest x
113 Rapture # 4 1:50 Rarest
113 Shadowman (2018) # 5 1:50 Rarest
114 Armor Hunters # 4 1:50 Rarest
115 4001 AD # 2 1:100 Rarest
115 Bloodshot USA # 4 1:50 Rarest
117 Archer & Armstrong # 25 1:50 Rarest
117 Harbinger Renegade # 6 1:50 Rarest x
118 Unity # 5 1:100 Rarest
118 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 3 1:50 Rarest x
119 Harbinger Renegade # 0 1:50 Rarest
119 Shadowman (2018) # 6 1:50 Rarest
120 Bloodshot # 25 1:50 Rarest
121 A&A # 3 1:50 Rarest
122 Ninja-K # 9 1:50 Rarest
122 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 5 1:50 Rarest
122 Rapture # 3 1:50 Rarest x
123 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 2 1:50 Rarest x
123 Secret Weapons # 0 1:50 Rarest x
124 Shadowman (2018) # 1 1:250 Rarest x
124 Ninja-K # 8 1:50 Rarest
125 Divinity III Stalinverse # 4 1:50 Rarest x
126 Ninja-K # 7 1:50 Rarest
127 X-O Manowar (2017) # 1 1:500 Rarest x
127 Unity # 3 1:100 Rarest
127 Britannia We Who # 4 1:50 Rarest
129 Divinity III Stalinverse # 3 1:50 Rarest x
129 Harbinger Renegade # 4 1:50 Rarest
131 Harbinger Wars 2 # 4 1:50 Rarest
132 Bloodshot Rising Spirit # 1 1:250 Rarest x
132 Bloodshot Reborn # 16 1:50 Rarest
132 Britannia We Who # 3 1:50 Rarest x
134 Harbinger Wars 2 # 3 1:50 Rarest x
134 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 4 1:50 Rarest
134 X-O Manowar (2012) # 49 1:50 Rarest
135 Bloodshot USA # 2 1:50 Rarest
135 Divinity III Stalinverse # 2 1:50 Rarest x
136 X-O Manowar (2012) # 48 1:50 Rarest
137 Bloodshot USA # 3 1:50 Rarest
137 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 4 1:50 Rarest
138 Bloodshot Reborn # 15 1:50 Rarest x
140 Savage # 2 1:50 Rarest x
141 Britannia We Who # 2 1:50 Rarest x
141 Harbinger Renegade # 3 1:50 Rarest
142 Britannia # 3 1:50 Rarest x
142 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 1 1:50 Rarest
143 A&A # 5 1:50 Rarest
143 Britannia Lost Eagles of Rome # 1 1:50 Rarest x
143 Rapture # 2 1:50 Rarest x
144 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 3 1:50 Rarest x
146 Britannia # 4 1:50 Rarest x
147 Britannia # 2 1:50 Rarest x
147 Harbinger Wars 2 # 2 1:50 Rarest x
147 Ninja-K # 6 1:50 Rarest
148 Secret Weapons # 2 1:50 Rarest x
149 Bloodshot Salvation # 10 1:50 Rarest
150 Shadowman (2018) # 4 1:50 Rarest x
152 Harbinger # 25 1:50 Rarest
152 Savage # 1 1:50 Rarest x
153 Bloodshot Salvation # 8 1:50 Rarest x
153 Ninja-K # 5 1:50 Rarest x
153 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 3 1:50 Rarest x
155 X-O Manowar (2017) # 18 1:50 Rarest
155 X-O Manowar (2017) # 19 1:50 Rarest
155 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 5 1:25 Rarest
156 Harbinger Renegade # 5 1:50 Rarest x
156 Ivar Timewalker # 2 1:40 Rarest x
158 X-O Manowar (2017) # 17 1:50 Rarest
159 Bloodshot Salvation # 6 1:50 Rarest x
159 Bloodshot Salvation # 9 1:50 Rarest
159 Secret Weapons # 3 1:50 Rarest x
159 Secret Weapons # 4 1:50 Rarest x
162 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 4 1:25 Rarest
163 Bloodshot Salvation # 5 1:50 Rarest
163 X-O Manowar (2012) # 47 1:50 Rarest
164 X-O Manowar (2017) # 16 1:50 Rarest
165 Bloodshot (2019) # 1 1:250 Rarest x
165 The Valiant # 4 1:50 Rarest x
167 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 1 1:50 Rarest x
168 Armor Hunters # 3 1:50 Rarest x
169 Bloodshot Salvation # 7 1:50 Rarest x
171 X-O Manowar (2017) # 15 1:50 Rarest
173 Bloodshot Reborn # 10 1:50 Rarest x
173 Generation Zero # 9 1:20 Rarest
174 Harbinger Renegade # 2 1:50 Rarest
174 Harbinger Wars 2 Prelude # 1 1:50 Rarest x
174 X-O Manowar (2017) # 14 1:50 Rarest
174 Quantum & Woody (2020) # 3 1:20 Rarest
175 Unity # 6 1:50 Rarest
176 Ninja-K # 3 1:50 Rarest x
176 Ninja-K # 4 1:50 Rarest x
176 Shadowman (2012) # 13 1:50 Rarest x
177 Britannia We Who # 1 1:50 Rarest x
178 Eternal Warrior # 5 1:50 Rarest x
178 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 2 1:50 Rarest x
178 X-O Manowar (2017) # 12 1:50 Rarest
178 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 3 1:25 Rarest
179 Bloodshot Reborn # 14 1:50 Rarest x
179 X-O Manowar (2017) # 13 1:50 Rarest
180 Unity # 2 1:100 Rarest
181 X-O Manowar (2017) # 11 1:50 Rarest x
181 Generation Zero # 8 1:20 Rarest
182 Bloodshot Salvation # 3 1:50 Rarest x
183 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 2 1:50 Rarest x
183 X-O Manowar (2017) # 10 1:50 Rarest
183 A&A # 12 1:20 Rarest
185 Bloodshot Salvation # 4 1:50 Rarest
185 Shadowman (2018) # 3 1:50 Rarest
185 The Valiant # 3 1:50 Rarest x
186 Punk Mambo # 1 1:100 Rarest x
188 A&A # 11 1:20 Rarest
189 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 12 1:20 Rarest
191 Generation Zero # 7 1:20 Rarest
191 Valiant High # 4 1:10 Rarest
192 Quantum & Woody (2020) # 2 1:20 Rarest
195 Ninja-K # 2 1:50 Rarest x
196 Eternity # 3 1:40 Rarest x
198 The Valiant # 1 1:100 Rarest x
198 Eternity # 4 1:40 Rarest x
200 The Valiant # 2 1:50 Rarest x
200 A&A # 9 1:20 Rarest
200 Quantum & Woody Must Die # 4 1:20 Rarest x
200 War Mother # 4 1:20 Rarest
201 4001 AD # 4 1:50 x
201 Generation Zero # 6 1:20 Rarest
202 Bloodshot Salvation # 2 1:50 Rarest
202 Eternity # 2 1:40 Rarest x
202 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 11 1:20 Rarest
203 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 5 1:50 Rarest
203 X-O Manowar (2017) # 9 1:50 Rarest x
203 Quantum & Woody Must Die # 1 1:25 Rarest x
204 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 2 1:25 Rarest
206 Eternal Warrior Days of Steel # 1 1:30 Rarest
206 Faith and the Future Force # 4 1:20 Rarest
207 Divinity II # 1 1:80 Rarest x
208 Divinity II # 4 1:40 Rarest x
208 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 10 1:20 Rarest
210 Armor Hunters # 2 1:50 Rarest x
210 A&A # 8 1:20 Rarest
213 Quantum & Woody Must Die # 3 1:20 Rarest
214 X-O Manowar (2012) # 25 1:50 Rarest
214 X-O Manowar (2017) # 8 1:50 Rarest
214 Imperium # 16 1:20 Rarest x
215 Generation Zero # 4 1:20 Rarest
216 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 9 1:20
217 Faiths Winter Wonderland Special # 1 1:20 Rarest x
217 Imperium # 15 1:20
218 Archer & Armstrong One Percent # 1 1:30 Rarest
218 Faith and the Future Force # 2 1:20 Rarest x
219 Valiant High # 3 1:10 Rarest
220 Shadowman (2018) # 2 1:50 Rarest x
220 Divinity II # 3 1:40 Rarest x
220 Armstrong & The Vault of Spirits # 1 1:20 Rarest x
220 Faith and the Future Force # 3 1:20 Rarest
220 Imperium # 14 1:20
221 X-O Manowar (2017) # 7 1:50 Rarest
223 4001 AD # 3 1:50
224 A&A # 7 1:20 Rarest x
224 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 4 1:20 Rarest x
225 X-O Manowar (2017) # 6 1:50 Rarest
225 Armor Hunters Aftermath # 1 1:25 Rarest
225 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 13 1:20 Rarest
226 Harbinger # 15 1:50 Rarest
226 Imperium # 12 1:20
229 4001 AD # 2 1:50
229 Generation Zero # 5 1:20 Rarest
229 Imperium # 13 1:20 Rarest x
229 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 8 1:20
229 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 12 1:20 Rarest x
230 4001 AD # 1 1:100 Rarest x
231 War Mother # 3 1:20 Rarest
232 A&A # 2 1:50 Rarest x
232 Divinity II # 2 1:40 Rarest x
233 Eternal Warrior Days of Steel # 3 1:20 Rarest
235 Imperium # 11 1:20
235 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 7 1:20
236 A&A # 10 1:20 Rarest
236 Unity # 24 1:20 Rarest
239 Rapture # 1 1:50 Rarest x
240 Bloodshot # 25 1:25
240 Quantum & Woody Must Die # 2 1:20 Rarest x
242 Delinquents # 1 1:50 Rarest
242 Secret Weapons Owens Story # 0 1:20 Rarest x
243 X-O Manowar (2012) # 50 1:50 Rarest
245 X-O Manowar (2012) # 34 1:25 Rarest
245 Ivar Timewalker # 12 1:20 Rarest
246 Unity # 0 1:25 Rarest
246 Britannia Lost Eagles of Rome # 4 1:20 Rarest
246 Harbinger Renegade # 8 1:20
246 Shadowman (2018) # 11 1:20 Rarest
246 Unity # 21 1:20 Rarest x
246 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 10 1:20 Rarest x
247 War Mother # 2 1:20 Rarest
248 Harbinger Wars # 4 1:50 Rarest
248 Imperium # 9 1:20
248 Ivar Timewalker # 11 1:20 Rarest
249 X-O Manowar (2017) # 5 1:50 Rarest
249 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 14 1:20 Rarest
250 Imperium # 10 1:20 Rarest x
250 Ninjak # 27 1:20 Rarest
251 Faith # 9 1:20 Rarest
251 Faith # 11 1:20 Rarest
251 Generation Zero # 3 1:20 Rarest
251 Savage # 3 1:20
251 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 11 1:20 Rarest x
252 Faith # 12 1:20 Rarest
252 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 6 1:20
253 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 9 1:20 Rarest
254 Unity # 17 1:20 Rarest
255 Unity # 22 1:20 Rarest x
256 Imperium # 1 1:40 Rarest x
256 Livewire # 3 1:20 Rarest
256 Unity # 20 1:20 Rarest x
257 Ninja-K # 14 1:20 Rarest
258 Armor Hunters Bloodshot # 1 1:25 Rarest
258 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 7 1:20 Rarest
259 Britannia Lost Eagles of Rome # 3 1:20 Rarest
259 Unity # 23 1:20 Rarest
260 Archer & Armstrong # 10 1:50 Rarest
260 Harbinger Renegade # 7 1:20
261 Divinity # 2 1:30 Rarest x
261 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 3 1:20 Rarest
261 Ninja-K # 13 1:20 Rarest
261 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 8 1:20 Rarest x
262 Harbinger Wars # 3 1:50 Rarest
262 X-O Manowar (2012) # 15 1:50 Rarest x
262 Faith # 8 1:20 Rarest
262 Shadowman (2018) # 10 1:20 Rarest
263 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 4 1:20
264 Armor Hunters Harbinger # 1 1:25 Rarest x
264 Savage # 4 1:20
265 Shadowman (2018) # 9 1:20 Rarest
265 Unity # 16 1:20 Rarest
265 Valiant Sized Quantum & Woody # 1 1:20 Rarest
267 Ivar Timewalker # 10 1:20 Rarest
268 Britannia Lost Eagles of Rome # 2 1:20 Rarest
269 Divinity # 1 1:40 Rarest x
269 Ninjak # 21 1:20 Rarest
269 Unity # 15 1:20 Rarest
269 Unity # 19 1:20 Rarest
270 Ivar Timewalker # 1 1:50 Rarest
270 X-O Manowar (2017) # 4 1:50 Rarest
270 Ninjak # 24 1:20
270 Ninjak # 25 1:20
271 Wrath of The Eternal Warrior # 6 1:20 Rarest
271 X-O Manowar Annual 2016 # 1 1:20 Rarest
272 Archer & Armstrong # 5 1:50 Rarest x
272 Bloodshot USA # 1 1:50 Rarest x
272 A&A # 6 1:20 Rarest
273 Divinity III Stalinverse # 1 1:50 Rarest x
273 Ninja-K # 12 1:20 Rarest
273 Unity # 14 1:20 Rarest
274 Divinity III Escape From Gulag 396 # 1 1:20 Rarest
274 Faith Dreamside # 1 1:20 Rarest
274 Ninjak # 23 1:20 x
274 Ninjak # 26 1:20 x
275 Eternal Warrior Days of Steel # 2 1:20 Rarest x
275 Ivar Timewalker # 8 1:20 Rarest
276 A&A # 4 1:20
276 Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd # 1 1:20 Rarest x
278 Bloodshot Rising Spirit # 4 1:20 Rarest
278 Ivar Timewalker # 9 1:20 Rarest
279 Doctor Tomorrow # 1 1:25 Rarest
279 Ivar Timewalker # 3 1:20 Rarest
279 Ivar Timewalker # 7 1:20 Rarest
279 Shadowman (2018) # 8 1:20 Rarest
280 Faith # 7 1:20 Rarest
280 Faith # 10 1:20 Rarest x
280 Ninjak # 20 1:20 Rarest x
280 Unity # 18 1:20 Rarest
281 Ivar Timewalker # 5 1:20 Rarest
281 Rapture # 4 1:20
282 Shadowman (2018) # 5 1:20
283 Ivar Timewalker # 6 1:20 Rarest
283 Ninja-K # 11 1:20 Rarest
283 Valiant High # 2 1:10 Rarest
284 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 1 1:25
284 Armor Hunters # 4 1:20
285 Armor Hunters # 1 1:50 Rarest
286 Bloodshot # 24 1:20 Rarest
286 Harbinger Omegas # 3 1:20 Rarest
286 Rai # 16 1:20 Rarest
287 Unity # 1 1:200 Rarest x
287 Bloodshot USA # 4 1:20
287 Imperium # 6 1:20
287 X-O Manowar (2012) # 46 1:20 Rarest
288 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 2 1:20 Rarest
288 Ninjak # 22 1:20 Rarest
289 Harbinger Wars # 2 1:50 Rarest
289 Unity # 13 1:20 Rarest
289 X-O Manowar (2012) # 45 1:20 Rarest
290 Ivar Timewalker # 4 1:20 Rarest x
291 Archer & Armstrong # 25 1:20
291 Harbinger Renegade # 6 1:20
291 Rai # 15 1:20 Rarest
292 Rai # 6 1:25 Rarest
292 X-O Manowar (2012) # 43 1:20 Rarest
293 Bloodshot Rising Spirit # 3 1:20 Rarest
293 Ninjak # 17 1:20 Rarest
294 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 21 1:25 Rarest x
294 X-O Manowar (2012) # 30 1:25 Rarest
294 Harbinger Faith # 0 1:20 Rarest
294 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 3 1:20
294 Punk Mambo # 0 1:20 Rarest
295 X-O Manowar (2012) # 11 1:50 Rarest x
295 Immortal Brothers Green Knight # 1 1:20 Rarest x
295 Shadowman (2018) # 7 1:20 Rarest
296 Ninjak # 19 1:20 Rarest
296 Rai # 14 1:20 Rarest
296 Shadowman (2018) # 6 1:20
297 Generation Zero # 2 1:20 Rarest
297 Harbinger Renegade # 0 1:20
298 Imperium # 8 1:20
299 Archer & Armstrong # 24 1:20 Rarest
299 Imperium # 3 1:20 Rarest x
300 X-O Manowar (2017) # 3 1:50 Rarest
300 Divinity III Shadowman # 1 1:20 Rarest
302 A&A # 3 1:20 x
302 Ninja-K # 10 1:20 Rarest
302 X-O Manowar (2012) # 44 1:20 Rarest
303 Harbinger # 25 1:25
303 Delinquents # 2 1:20 Rarest
303 Livewire # 2 1:20 Rarest
303 Rapture # 3 1:20 x
304 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 0 1:25 Rarest x
304 Harbinger Omegas # 2 1:20 Rarest
304 Ninja-K # 9 1:20
304 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 5 1:20
305 Eternity # 1 1:40 Rarest x
305 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 20 1:25 Rarest x
306 Imperium # 7 1:20 Rarest x
306 Ninjak # 16 1:20 Rarest
306 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 2 1:20
306 X-O Manowar (2012) # 34 1:20
307 Archer & Armstrong # 19 1:25 Rarest
307 Secret Weapons # 0 1:20
310 Ninjak # 15 1:20 Rarest x
310 Ninja-K # 8 1:20
310 Unity # 12 1:20 Rarest
310 X-O Manowar (2012) # 35 1:20 Rarest
311 Divinity III Stalinverse # 4 1:20
311 Ivar Timewalker # 2 1:20
311 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 5 1:20 Rarest
313 Bloodshot Reborn # 18 1:20 Rarest x
313 Imperium # 5 1:20 Rarest x
314 Archer & Armstrong # 18 1:25 Rarest
314 Imperium # 2 1:20 Rarest x
315 Ninja-K # 7 1:20
315 X-O Manowar (2012) # 42 1:20 Rarest
316 Bloodshot Reborn Annual 2016 # 1 1:20 Rarest
316 Imperium # 4 1:20
317 Bloodshot Reborn # 17 1:20 Rarest
317 Britannia We Who # 4 1:20
319 Armor Hunters Bloodshot # 3 1:20 Rarest x
319 Armor Hunters Harbinger # 3 1:20 Rarest
319 Divinity III Komandar Bloodshot # 1 1:20 Rarest
319 Ninjak # 13 1:20 Rarest x
320 Eternal Warrior Awakening # 1 1:20 Rarest
321 Divinity III Stalinverse # 3 1:20
321 Faith # 6 1:20 Rarest
321 Harbinger Renegade # 4 1:20
322 Eternal Warrior # 1 1:50 Rarest
324 Harbinger Bleeding Monk # 0 1:25 Rarest
324 X-O Manowar (2017) # 26 1:20 Rarest
325 Bloodshot Reborn # 13 1:20 Rarest x
325 Divinity III Aric # 1 1:20 Rarest x
325 X-O Manowar (2012) # 36 1:20 Rarest
326 Bloodshots Day Off # 1 1:20 Rarest
327 Harbinger Wars 2 # 4 1:20
328 Britannia We Who # 3 1:20
328 Rai # 13 1:20 Rarest
328 X-O Manowar (2012) # 37 1:20 Rarest
329 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 18 1:25 Rarest
329 X-O Manowar (2012) # 39 1:20 Rarest
329 X-O Manowar (2017) # 25 1:20 Rarest
330 Bloodshot Reborn # 1 1:100 Rarest
330 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 1 1:50 Rarest
330 Bloodshot Reborn # 16 1:20 x
330 X-O Manowar (2012) # 41 1:20 Rarest
331 X-O Manowar (2017) # 24 1:20 Rarest
332 Book of Death # 4 1:60 Rarest x
332 Unity # 8 1:25 Rarest
332 Bloodshot Rising Spirit # 2 1:20 Rarest
332 Rai History of Valiant Universe # 1 1:20 Rarest x
332 X-O Manowar Commander Trill # 0 1:20 Rarest x
333 Harbinger Wars 2 Aftermath # 1 1:20 Rarest
333 X-O Manowar (2012) # 49 1:20
334 Rai # 1 1:75 Rarest
334 Archer & Armstrong Archer # 0 1:25 Rarest x
334 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 4 1:20
335 Harbinger Wars 2 # 3 1:20
335 X-O Manowar (2017) # 23 1:20 Rarest
336 Divinity III Stalinverse # 2 1:20 x
336 Ninjak # 18 1:20 Rarest
336 X-O Manowar (2012) # 32 1:20 Rarest
336 X-O Manowar (2012) # 33 1:20 Rarest
337 Quantum & Woody Goat # 0 1:25 Rarest
337 Bloodshot USA # 2 1:20
338 X-O Manowar (2012) # 48 1:20
341 Britannia # 1 1:50 Rarest x
341 4001 AD Shadowman # 1 1:20 Rarest
341 Rai # 7 1:20 Rarest
342 Bloodshot USA # 3 1:20
342 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 4 1:20
343 Bloodshot Reborn # 15 1:20
343 Faith and the Future Force # 1 1:20 Rarest
343 Ninjak # 12 1:20 Rarest
343 Rai # 8 1:20 Rarest
345 Bloodshot Reborn # 12 1:20 Rarest x
345 Shadowman (2012) # 15 1:20 Rarest
346 Harbinger # 24 1:20 Rarest
347 Generation Zero # 1 1:40 Rarest x
347 X-O Manowar 25th Anniverary (One Shot) # 1 1:20 Rarest
348 Ninjak # 1 1:60 Rarest x
349 Harbinger # 20 1:25 Rarest
349 Savage # 2 1:20 x
350 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 22 1:20 Rarest
350 Eternal Warrior # 7 1:20 Rarest
350 X-O Manowar (2012) # 40 1:20 Rarest
351 Harbinger Wars # 1 1:50 Rarest
351 Britannia We Who # 2 1:20
352 Harbinger Renegade # 3 1:20
353 Ninjak # 8 1:20 Rarest
353 X-O Manowar (2012) # 31 1:20 Rarest x
353 X-O Manowar (2017) # 22 1:20 Rarest
354 X-O Manowar (2012) # 26 1:25 Rarest
354 Ninjak # 0 1:20 Rarest
355 Britannia # 3 1:20 x
355 Ninjak # 14 1:20 Rarest
356 A&A # 5 1:20
356 Rapture # 2 1:20
357 Britannia Lost Eagles of Rome # 1 1:20
358 Book of Death # 3 1:60 Rarest x
358 4001 AD Bloodshot # 1 1:20 Rarest
359 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 3 1:20
360 Archer & Armstrong # 20 1:20 Rarest
360 Bloodshot Salvation # 12 1:20 Rarest
360 Rai # 11 1:20 Rarest
360 Shadowman (2012) # 14 1:20 Rarest
361 X-O Manowar (2017) # 21 1:20 Rarest
362 Bloodshot Salvation # 11 1:20 Rarest
362 Unity # 11 1:20 Rarest
363 Bloodshot Reborn # 11 1:20 Rarest
364 X-O Manowar (2017) # 2 1:50 Rarest
365 Britannia # 4 1:20 x
365 Ninjak # 11 1:20 Rarest x
367 Book of Death # 2 1:60 Rarest x
367 4001 AD X-O Manowar # 1 1:20 Rarest
367 Britannia # 2 1:20
367 Faith # 4 1:20 Rarest
367 Harbinger Wars 2 # 2 1:20
367 Ninja-K # 6 1:20
367 Rai # 9 1:20 Rarest x
370 Bloodshot Reborn # 9 1:20 Rarest
370 Secret Weapons # 2 1:20
371 X-O Manowar (2017) # 20 1:20 Rarest
371 Valiant High # 1 1:10
372 Bloodshot Salvation # 10 1:20
372 Ninjak # 9 1:20 Rarest x
373 Shadowman (2018) # 4 1:20
375 Eternal Warrior # 6 1:20 Rarest
376 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 9 1:20 Rarest x
377 Rai # 10 1:20 Rarest
378 Divinity # 0 1:20 Rarest
379 X-O Manowar (2012) # 19 1:30 Rarest
380 Savage # 1 1:20
381 Ninja-K # 5 1:20
381 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 3 1:20
382 Bloodshot Salvation # 8 1:20
382 Harbinger # 23 1:20 Rarest
383 Faith # 1 1:50 Rarest x
383 X-O Manowar (2012) # 20 1:25 Rarest
385 Ninjak # 10 1:20 Rarest
386 X-O Manowar (2017) # 19 1:20
386 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 5 1:10
387 X-O Manowar (2017) # 18 1:20
388 Shadowman (2012) # 10 1:25 Rarest
388 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 17 1:20 Rarest x
390 Faith # 3 1:20 Rarest x
390 Harbinger Renegade # 5 1:20
391 Bloodshot Reborn # 8 1:20 Rarest
391 Eternity # 3 1:20
392 Unity # 5 1:30 x
392 Harbinger # 22 1:20 Rarest
393 X-O Manowar # 0 1:25 Rarest
394 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 14 1:25 Rarest
394 X-O Manowar (2017) # 17 1:20
395 Eternity # 4 1:20
395 Rai # 5 1:20 Rarest x
396 The Valiant # 1 1:50 x
396 Harbinger Omegas # 1 1:20 Rarest
397 Bloodshot Salvation # 9 1:20
397 Secret Weapons # 3 1:20
397 Secret Weapons # 4 1:20
398 Bloodshot Salvation # 6 1:20
399 A&A # 9 1:10
400 War Mother # 4 1:10
403 Eternity # 2 1:20
405 Unity # 9 1:20 Rarest
405 Unity # 10 1:20 Rarest
405 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 4 1:10
406 Bloodshot Salvation # 5 1:20
406 X-O Manowar (2012) # 47 1:20
408 X-O Manowar (2012) # 29 1:20 Rarest x
408 X-O Manowar (2017) # 16 1:20
410 Unity # 4 1:25 Rarest
410 Ninjak # 5 1:20 Rarest
410 X-O Manowar (2012) # 24 1:20 Rarest
411 Secret Weapons # 1 1:50 Rarest x
411 The Valiant # 4 1:20 x
411 Faith and the Future Force # 4 1:10
412 Eternal Warrior Days of Steel # 1 1:15
413 Divinity II # 1 1:40
413 Bloodshot & Hard Corps # 16 1:20 Rarest
413 Unity # 7 1:20 Rarest
415 Divinity # 4 1:20 Rarest x
415 X-O Manowar (2012) # 38 1:20 Rarest x
416 Archer & Armstrong # 14 1:25 Rarest
416 Divinity II # 4 1:20 x
416 Ninjak # 3 1:20 Rarest
417 Divinity # 3 1:20 Rarest x
418 Bloodshot Reborn # 0 1:20 Rarest
418 Ninjak Vs. Vu # 1 1:20
419 Armor Hunters # 3 1:20
420 A&A # 8 1:10
421 Bloodshot Salvation # 7 1:20
422 Harbinger Wars 2 # 1 1:50
422 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 6 1:20 Rarest
423 Bloodshot Reborn # 7 1:20 Rarest
427 X-O Manowar (2017) # 15 1:20
428 Ninjak # 7 1:20 Rarest
430 Generation Zero # 4 1:10
432 Bloodshot Reborn # 10 1:20 x
433 Harbinger Wars 2 Prelude # 1 1:20
433 Faiths Winter Wonderland Special # 1 1:10
434 X-O Manowar (2017) # 14 1:20
435 Harbinger Renegade # 2 1:20
435 Faith and the Future Force # 2 1:10
437 Unity # 6 1:20
438 X-O Manowar (2012) # 27 1:20 Rarest
439 Harbinger # 18 1:20 Rarest
439 Armstrong & The Vault of Spirits # 1 1:10
440 Book of Death Fall of X-O Manowar # 1 1:20 Rarest
440 Divinity II # 3 1:20 x
440 Ninja-K # 3 1:20
440 Ninja-K # 4 1:20
440 Shadowman (2012) # 13 1:20
440 War Mother # 1 1:20 Rarest x
440 Faith and the Future Force # 3 1:10
441 Britannia We Who # 1 1:20
443 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 2 1:20 x
445 X-O Manowar (2012) # 5 1:50 Rarest x
445 Eternal Warrior # 5 1:20
445 X-O Manowar (2012) # 21 1:20 Rarest
445 X-O Manowar (2017) # 12 1:20
445 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 3 1:10
446 X-O Manowar (2017) # 13 1:20
448 4001 AD War Mother # 1 1:20 Rarest
448 Bloodshot Reborn # 14 1:20
448 A&A # 7 1:10
452 X-O Manowar (2017) # 11 1:20
453 Bloodshot Salvation # 3 1:20
453 Ninjak # 6 1:20 Rarest x
456 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 2 1:20
458 X-O Manowar (2017) # 10 1:20
458 Generation Zero # 5 1:10
458 Imperium # 13 1:10
459 Bloodshot Reborn # 5 1:20 Rarest
459 Eternal Warrior # 3 1:20 Rarest
459 X-O Manowar (2012) # 28 1:20 Rarest
460 4001 AD # 1 1:50 x
460 Eternal Warrior # 4 1:20 Rarest
461 Bloodshot Salvation # 4 1:20
461 Faith # 2 1:20 Rarest
462 Shadowman (2018) # 3 1:20
462 The Valiant # 3 1:20
462 War Mother # 3 1:10
463 Divinity II # 2 1:20 x
468 X-O Manowar (2012) # 22 1:20 Rarest
469 Shadowman (2012) # 1 1:50 Rarest x
470 A&A # 1 1:50 Rarest
472 Rai # 2 1:25 Rarest
473 Ninjak # 4 1:20 Rarest
475 Ninja-K # 1 1:50 x
479 Bloodshot # 13 1:20 Rarest x
479 Bloodshot Reborn # 6 1:20 Rarest
480 Book of Death Fall of Harbinger # 1 1:20 Rarest
481 Shadowman (2012) # 8 1:20 Rarest
482 Shadowman (2012) # 4 1:25 Rarest x
483 Secret Weapons Owens Story # 0 1:10 x
485 X-O Manowar (2012) # 50 1:25 x
486 Bloodshot Reborn # 4 1:20 Rarest
486 Harbinger # 16 1:20 Rarest
486 Ninja-K # 2 1:20
488 Ninjak # 2 1:20 Rarest
493 War Mother # 2 1:10
498 The Valiant # 2 1:20 x
501 Savage # 3 1:10
502 Shadowman (2012) # 5 1:125 LW x
502 Faith # 9 1:10
502 Generation Zero # 3 1:10
503 4001 AD # 4 1:20
504 Delinquents # 4 1:10 x
505 Bloodshot Salvation # 2 1:20
506 Bloodshot # 5 1:25 Rarest x
506 Unity # 3 1:25 Rarest
506 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 5 1:20 x
506 X-O Manowar (2017) # 9 1:20
506 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 9 1:10
507 Quantum & Woody Must Die # 1 1:10
508 Rai # 3 1:20 Rarest x
509 Bloodshot Reborn # 3 1:20 Rarest
509 Harbinger # 17 1:20 Rarest x
509 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 2 1:10
510 Harbinger # 14 1:20 Rarest
512 Imperium # 1 1:20
512 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 3 1:20 Rarest x
513 Shadowman (2012) # 3 1:25 Rarest
515 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 7 1:10
518 X-O Manowar (2012) # 17 1:20 Rarest
519 Book of Death Fall of Ninjak # 1 1:20 Rarest x
521 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 8 1:10
522 Bloodshot # 9 1:20 Rarest
522 Divinity # 2 1:15 x
524 Harbinger # 6 1:25 Rarest
524 Faith # 8 1:10
525 Armor Hunters # 2 1:20
525 X-O Manowar (2012) # 16 1:20 Rarest
527 Savage # 4 1:10
528 Archer & Armstrong # 8 1:20 Rarest
529 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 1 1:20
530 Shadowman End Times # 3 1:10
531 Bloodshot # 11 1:20 Rarest x
534 X-O Manowar (2012) # 25 1:20 x
534 X-O Manowar (2017) # 8 1:20
536 Bloodshot Salvation # 1 1:50
536 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 4 1:20 Rarest
539 Bloodshot # 0 1:20 Rarest
542 X-O Manowar Annual 2016 # 1 1:10
544 A&A # 6 1:10
546 Delinquents # 3 1:10 Rarest
548 Archer & Armstrong # 7 1:20 Rarest
548 Divinity III Escape From Gulag 396 # 1 1:10
549 Shadowman (2018) # 2 1:20
550 Bloodshot Reborn # 1 1:60 Rarest x
550 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 1 1:50
551 X-O Manowar (2017) # 7 1:20
552 A&A # 4 1:10
552 Shadowman/Rae Sremmurd # 1 1:10
555 Ivar Timewalker # 9 1:10
556 4001 AD # 3 1:20
557 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 1 1:50 Rarest x
558 Ivar Timewalker # 3 1:10
559 Bloodshot # 3 1:25 Rarest x
560 Archer & Armstrong # 2 1:25 Rarest x
560 Faith # 7 1:10
561 X-O Manowar (2017) # 6 1:20
561 Ivar Timewalker # 5 1:10
562 Rapture # 4 1:10
563 Armor Hunters Aftermath # 1 1:10
565 Harbinger # 15 1:20
566 Harbinger # 0 1:25 Rarest
566 Shadowman End Times # 2 1:10
568 Harbinger Renegade # 1 1:50 Rarest
568 Bloodshot # 7 1:20 Rarest
569 Armor Hunters # 1 1:25
571 Eternal Warrior # 2 1:20 Rarest
572 Rai # 16 1:10
573 Unity # 1 1:100 Rarest
573 4001 AD # 2 1:20
573 Shadowman (2012) # 7 1:20 Rarest
576 Archer & Armstrong # 0 1:20 Rarest
577 Faith (mini) # 3 1:20 Rarest
579 Bloodshot # 12 1:20 Rarest
580 A&A # 2 1:20
581 Harbinger Renegade # 5 1:120 LW x
581 Archer & Armstrong # 25 1:10
581 Rai # 15 1:10
583 X-O Manowar (2012) # 43 1:10
584 Shadowman (2012) # 0 1:20 Rarest x
585 Faith (mini) # 2 1:20 Rarest x
588 Faith (mini) # 4 1:20 Rarest
589 Immortal Brothers Green Knight # 1 1:10
591 Rai # 14 1:10
594 Generation Zero # 2 1:10
596 Bloodshot # 6 1:20 Rarest x
597 Rapture # 1 1:20
598 Imperium # 3 1:10 x
599 Book of Death Fall of Bloodshot # 1 1:20 Rarest x
600 Bloodshot # 25 1:10
600 Divinity III Shadowman # 1 1:10
601 Harbinger # 1 1:50 Rarest
604 Delinquents # 1 1:20
604 A&A # 3 1:10
606 X-O Manowar (2012) # 50 1:20
606 Delinquents # 2 1:10 Rarest
606 Rapture # 3 1:10
609 Eternity # 1 1:20
611 Harbinger # 8 1:20 Rarest
611 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 2 1:20 Rarest x
611 X-O Manowar (2012) # 34 1:10
615 Unity # 0 1:10
616 Harbinger # 13 1:20 Rarest
618 Shadowman (2018) # 1 1:50
620 Harbinger Wars # 4 1:20
620 X-O Manowar (2012) # 35 1:10
621 X-O Manowar (2017) # 5 1:20
621 Rai # 12 1:10 Rarest
622 Divinity III Stalinverse # 4 1:10
623 Bloodshot Reborn # 2 1:20 Rarest
626 Shadowman (2012) # 5 1:20 Rarest
626 Bloodshot Reborn # 18 1:10
626 Imperium # 5 1:10
627 Imperium # 2 1:10
630 X-O Manowar (2012) # 12 1:20 Rarest
631 Bloodshot Reborn Annual 2016 # 1 1:10
632 Imperium # 4 1:10
633 Bloodshot Reborn # 17 1:10
634 Britannia We Who # 4 1:10
637 Bloodshot Reborn # 14 1:120 LW x
637 Bloodshot # 10 1:20 Rarest
638 Divinity III Komandar Bloodshot # 1 1:10
638 Ninjak # 13 1:10
640 Eternal Warrior Awakening # 1 1:10
641 Divinity III Stalinverse # 3 1:10
641 Harbinger Renegade # 4 1:10
642 Faith # 6 1:10
644 X-O Manowar (2012) # 10 1:20 Rarest
644 Armor Hunters Bloodshot # 1 1:10
650 Bloodshot Reborn # 13 1:10
650 Divinity III Aric # 1 1:10
650 X-O Manowar (2012) # 36 1:10
651 Shadowman (2012) # 2 1:25 Rarest x
652 Bloodshots Day Off # 1 1:10
655 Harbinger Wars # 3 1:20 x
655 X-O Manowar (2012) # 15 1:20
655 Rai # 13 1:10
656 Britannia We Who # 3 1:10
656 X-O Manowar (2012) # 37 1:10
657 Harbinger # 8 1:125 LW x
658 X-O Manowar (2012) # 39 1:10
659 Bloodshot Reborn # 16 1:10
660 Armor Hunters Harbinger # 1 1:10
664 Bloodshot Reborn # 10 1:100 LW x
664 Rai History of Valiant Universe # 1 1:10
666 X-O Manowar (2012) # 49 1:10
671 Divinity III Stalinverse # 2 1:10
674 X-O Manowar (2017) # 4 1:20
675 Ivar Timewalker # 1 1:20
676 X-O Manowar (2012) # 48 1:10
678 Bloodshot USA # 1 1:20
680 Archer & Armstrong # 5 1:20 x
681 Harbinger # 11 1:20 Rarest x
682 Divinity III Stalinverse # 1 1:20 x
682 4001 AD Shadowman # 1 1:10
683 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 4 1:10
685 Ninjak # 12 1:10
686 Bloodshot Reborn # 15 1:10
686 Faith and the Future Force # 1 1:10
689 X-O Manowar (2012) # 8 1:20 Rarest
690 Bloodshot Reborn # 12 1:10
693 Generation Zero # 1 1:20 x
695 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 1 1:100 LW x
698 Savage # 2 1:10 x
702 Britannia We Who # 2 1:10
704 Harbinger Renegade # 3 1:10
706 Ninjak # 8 1:10
707 Ninjak # 0 1:10
707 Shadowman End Times # 1 1:10 Rarest
709 Ninjak # 14 1:10
710 Britannia # 3 1:10
710 Q2 Rtn Quantum & Woody # 1 1:10
712 Archer & Armstrong # 1 1:100 LW x
712 A&A # 5 1:10
712 Rapture # 2 1:10
715 4001 AD Bloodshot # 1 1:10
716 Faith # 5 1:20 Rarest
717 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 3 1:10
718 Unity # 2 1:25 Rarest x
723 Harbinger Wars # 2 1:20 x
726 Bloodshot Reborn # 11 1:10
729 Ninjak # 11 1:10 x
729 Rai # 6 1:10 x
730 Britannia # 4 1:10 x
733 X-O Manowar (2012) # 30 1:10
734 4001 AD X-O Manowar # 1 1:10
734 Britannia # 2 1:10 x
737 X-O Manowar (2012) # 11 1:20
738 Harbinger # 3 1:20 Rarest x
739 Bloodshot Reborn # 9 1:10
743 Ninjak # 9 1:10
748 X-O Manowar (2017) # 3 1:20
756 Divinity # 0 1:10
756 Harbinger # 25 1:10 x
759 Savage # 1 1:10 x
764 Bloodshot # 2 1:20 Rarest
770 Ninjak # 10 1:10
780 Faith # 3 1:10
782 Bloodshot Reborn # 8 1:10
782 Divinity # 2 1:10
799 X-O Manowar (2012) # 1 1:50 Rarest x
804 X-O Manowar (2012) # 4 1:20 Rarest
805 Eternal Warrior # 1 1:20
807 X-O Manowar (2012) # 50 1:15
811 X-O Manowar (2012) # 47 1:10
820 Ninjak # 5 1:10
821 Harbinger # 2 1:20 Rarest
824 Quantum & Woody (2013) # 1 1:20
826 Divinity II # 1 1:20
829 Unity # 8 1:10
829 X-O Manowar (2012) # 38 1:10
830 Divinity # 4 1:10 x
831 Divinity II # 4 1:10
831 Ninjak # 3 1:10
834 Divinity # 3 1:10 x
836 Bloodshot Reborn # 0 1:10
845 Bloodshot Reborn # 7 1:10
849 Book of Death # 1 1:60 Rarest x
851 Britannia # 1 1:20 x
855 Ninjak # 7 1:10
863 Bloodshot Reborn # 10 1:10
865 X-O Manowar (2012) # 3 1:20 Rarest x
870 Harbinger Renegade # 2 1:10
876 Harbinger Wars # 1 1:20
879 Divinity II # 3 1:10 x
880 Book of Death Fall of X-O Manowar # 1 1:10
880 War Mother # 1 1:10
882 Britannia We Who # 1 1:10
885 X-O Manowar (2012) # 26 1:10
886 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 2 1:10
891 X-O Manowar (2020) # 1 1:25
895 4001 AD War Mother # 1 1:10
895 Bloodshot Reborn # 14 1:10
905 Ninjak # 6 1:10
910 X-O Manowar (2017) # 2 1:20
917 Bloodshot Reborn # 5 1:10
921 Faith # 2 1:10
925 Divinity II # 2 1:10 x
946 Ninjak # 4 1:10 x
957 Faith # 1 1:20
958 Faith (mini) # 1 1:20
958 Bloodshot Reborn # 6 1:10
960 Book of Death Fall of Harbinger # 1 1:10
972 Bloodshot Reborn # 4 1:10
975 Ninjak # 2 1:10
982 X-O Manowar # 0 1:10
990 The Valiant # 1 1:20 x
995 Book of Death # 4 1:20
996 The Valiant # 2 1:10 x
1005 4001 AD # 4 1:10
1013 X-O Manowar (2012) # 2 1:20 Rarest x
1018 Bloodshot Reborn # 3 1:10
1024 Imperium # 1 1:10
1026 Secret Weapons # 1 1:20
1038 Book of Death Fall of Ninjak # 1 1:10 x
1044 Ninjak # 1 1:20 x
1054 Harbinger Wars 2 # 1 1:20
1057 Dr Mirage Second Lives # 1 1:10
1068 X-O Manowar (2012) # 25 1:10
1074 Book of Death # 3 1:20
1074 Divinity # 1 1:10 x
1084 Archer & Armstrong # 1 1:20 x
1099 Book of Death # 2 1:20
1111 4001 AD # 3 1:10
1113 X-O Manowar (2012) # 5 1:20 x
1145 4001 AD # 2 1:10
1150 4001 AD # 1 1:20
1160 A&A # 2 1:10
1169 Livewire # 1 1:20
1171 Shadowman (2012) # 1 1:20
1175 A&A # 1 1:20
1177 X-O Manowar (2012) # 6 1:50 LW x
1180 Rai # 2 1:10 x
1188 Ninja-K # 1 1:20
1194 Rapture # 1 1:10 x
1198 Book of Death Fall of Bloodshot # 1 1:10
1211 X-O Manowar (2012) # 50 1:10
1246 Bloodshot Reborn # 2 1:10
1253 Rai # 1 1:20 x
1265 X-O Manowar (2017) # 1 1:50 x
1267 Bloodshot # 1 1:50 LW x
1332 Bloodshot # 1 1:20 x
1338 Bloodshot Salvation # 1 1:20
1350 Ivar Timewalker # 1 1:10
1363 Divinity III Stalinverse # 1 1:10
1375 Quantum & Woody (2017) # 1 1:20 x
1385 Generation Zero # 1 1:10
1391 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 1 1:20 x
1419 Harbinger Renegade # 1 1:20
1422 Armor Hunters # 1 1:10 x
1432 Faith # 5 1:10
1501 Harbinger # 1 1:20 x
1545 Shadowman (2018) # 1 1:20
1646 Bloodshot Rising Spirit # 1 1:20
1649 Bloodshot Reborn # 1 1:20 x
1651 Divinity II # 1 1:10 x
1702 Britannia # 1 1:10
1908 Unity # 1 1:30
1914 Faith # 1 1:10
1915 Faith (mini) # 1 1:10
1989 Legends of the Geomancer # 4 1:10 x
1996 X-O Manowar (2012) # 1 1:20 x
2038 Legends of the Geomancer # 1 1:25 Rarest x
2088 Ninjak # 1 1:10
2148 Legends of the Geomancer # 3 1:10 x
2197 Book of Death # 2 1:10
2197 Legends of the Geomancer # 2 1:10 x
2300 4001 AD # 1 1:10
2350 A&A # 1 1:10
2505 Rai # 1 1:10
2547 Book of Death # 1 1:20 x
2781 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior # 1 1:10
2838 Harbinger Renegade # 1 1:10
3161 X-O Manowar (2017) # 1 1:20
3297 Bloodshot Reborn # 1 1:10 x
5094 Book of Death # 1 1:10 x



*NOTE: Valiant can print any number of copies they like, but they do announce incentive ratios via Previews and the monthly sales numbers are shown on Comichron.com. The calculations used to make this list are to determine what portion of Comichron.com sales numbers are likely to be non-incentives, then to apply the Preview incentive ratios to the non-incentive portion of the monthly Comichron number. It is likely that Valiant printed more copies than what is calculated because the calculation is for the first month of North American sales, not for worldwide orders. Additional copies are printed to allow for damages and for Valiant internal use (such as providing to artists, writers, etc.). Simply stated, this is all the information we have available that can be used to create a list like this.

From DirtbagSailors wonderful thread. He has done a done of work on tracking these numbers down and we all should comment him. :clap: Take a look at his thread it is well worth the time to read DBS's 100% CONFIRMED "Rare" Print Run Info

Normal Variants and/or Issues
180-200 copies - Bloodshot Salvation #1 (Suayan Brushed Metal 1:250)
180-200 copies - Ninja-K #1 (Suayan Brushed Metal 1:250)
180-200 copies - Shadowman (2017) #1 (Zonjic Brushed Metal Glow-In-The-Dark 1:250)
180-200 copies - Harbinger Wars II #1 (LaRosa Brushed Metal 1:250)
180-200 copies - Life and Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Braithwaite Glass Mirror 1:250)
180-200 copies - Livewire #1 (Braithwaite Glass 1:250)
180-200 copies - Bloodshot: Project Rising Spirit #1 (Braithwaite Glass 1:250)
180-200 copies - Fallen World #1 (Braithwaite Glass 1:250)
180-200 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Meyers Carbon Fiber 1:250)
250 copies - Harbinger #25 (Kitson 1:50)
275 copies - Rapture #4 (Suayan 1:50)
275 copies - Savage #4 (LaRosa 1:50)
300 copies - Savage #1 (LaRosa 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Savage
325 copies - Imperium #11 (Walsh 1:20)
330 copies - Imperium #3 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of LV-99 (Lord Vine)
350 copies - Divinity #1 (LaRosa 1:40) - 1st Appearance of Abram Adams (Divinity)
350 copies - Savage #2 (LaRosa 1:50)
350 copies - Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:40) - 1st Appearance of Sunlight on Snow (Mech Major)
350 copies - Imperium #2 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Angela Peace Baingana; Gravedog
350 copies - Imperium #12 (Palo 1:20)
350 copies - Imperium #13 (Ryp 1:20)
350 copies - Imperium #14 (Ryp 1:20)
350 copies - Imperium #15 (Doyle 1:20)
400 copies - Imperium #5 (Grace 1:20)
400 copies - Imperium #6 (Kano 1:20)
400 copies - Imperium #7 (Tan 1:20)
400 copies - Imperium #10 (De La Torre 1:20)
400 copies - Imperium #16 (Montoya 1:20)
400 copies - Shadowman #13 (Davis 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Punk Mambo
400 copies - Eternal Warrior #5 (Mack 1:50) - 1st (Modern) Appearance of the world of 4001 A.D.
400 copies - X-O Manowar #15 (Kotaki 1:50) - 1st Appearance of COL Jamie Capshaw
400 copies - Wrath of Eternal Warrior #4 (Lafuente 1:50)
425 copies - Imperium #4 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Interdimensional Angela vessel
425 copies - Imperium #9 (Ryp 1:20)
450 copies - Imperium #8 (Henry 1:20)
450 copies - Savage #3 (LaRosa 1:50)
450 copies - Britannia #3 (Johnson 1:50)
500 copies - Harbinger Wars #3 (Zircher 1:50) - 1st (Modern) Appearance of H.A.R.D. Corps
525 copies - 4001 A.D. #4 (Sook 1:100)
600 copies - Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Sunlight on Snow (Mech Major)
600 copies - Britannia #2 (Johnson 1:50)
675 copies - A&A: Adventures of Archer & Armstrong #5 (Lafuente 1:50)
800 copies - Harbinger Wars #1 (Zircher 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Generation Zero (RIP )
2,000 copies - Harbinger #2 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Darpan
2,800 copies - Ninjak 2015 #1 (Sauvage cover D) - - 1st Appearance of Roku; 1 of 3 Covers released featuring the 1st appearance of Roku on the cover.

Store and/or Convention Exclusives
3-10 known copies - Ninjak vs the Valiant Universe #0 (NYCC Unreleased Edition)
50 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kitson Shazam Comics/NYCC 2019 B&W Virgin)
100 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kitson Shazam Comics/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
100 copies - Bloodshot: Project Rising Spirit #1 (Salgado Virgin)
100 copies - Livewire #1 (Salgado Virgin)
100 copies - Psi-Lords #1 (Salgado Virgin)
100 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Salgado Virgin)
100 copies - Fallen World #1 (Salgado Shazam Comics & Toys Virgin)
100 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Parrillo Comics Elite/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
100 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kincaid Comics Elite/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
100 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kitson Shazam Comics/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
100 copies - 2015 FCBD Valiant 25th anniversary (Edwards Ultimate Comics Un-stickered version)
Store and/or Convention Exclusives: 101-300 copies
150 Copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Massafera Comics To Astonish Virgin)
150 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Seeley Kowabunga comics "Seeing Red" version Virgin)
150 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Sayger Prideland Collectibles Virgin)
175 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (Iron Maiden Homage B&W Sketch)
• NOTE: Initially listed Limited to 100 copies; however, confirmed to have 175 copies (which is not a huge difference really)
200 copies - Fallen World #1 (OASAS B&W Sketch w/ Jae Lee ink)250 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (Knowhere Exclusive Jen Bartel B&W Virgin)
200 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Johnson Metahumans COmics/LACC 2019 Virgin)
225 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Desjardins Bulletproof Comics Virgin)
250 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Twin City Comic Con Cat Variant)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Tucci Borderlands Comics B&W Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Dekal Groundbreaking Comics Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Salgado Harrisburg COmic & Pop Con 2019 Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Haverland OASAS Comics/LACC 2019 Variant)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Haverland OASAS Comics/LACC 2019 Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Baron OASAS Comics variant/LACC 2019 Variant)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Baron OASAS comics Variant/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Corona Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 B&W Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Bosslogic Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 Virgin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Shah Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 Virigin)
250 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Salgado Harrisburg Comic & POP Con Virgin)
300 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Seeley Kowabunga Comics Variant)
300 copies - Fallen World #1 (OASAS Virgin w/ Jae Lee ink & June Lee Colors)
300 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (Las Vegas Variant/Pink Punk Cat Cover)
350 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Baron Brave New World)
400 copies - Bloodshot: Project Rising Spirit #1 (Salgado)
400 copies - Livewire #1 (Salgado)
400 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Salgado)
400 copies - Fallen World #1 (Salgado)
400 copies - Psi-Lords #1 (Salgado)
400 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Parrillo Comics Elite/NYCC 2019 Variant)
400 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kincaid Comics Elite/NYCC 2019 Variant)
400 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Johnson Metahumans COmics/LACC 2019 Variant)
400 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kitson Shazam Comics/NYCC 2019 Variant)
405 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (Iron Maiden Homage Variant)
500 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (BSI Comics)
500 copies - Bloodshot Reborn #1 (Nord Ultimate Comics Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot Salvation #1 (Hero's Vault Exclusive)
500 copies - Bloodshot Rising Spirit #1 (Bulletproof Exclusive)
500 copies - Livewire #1 (Bulletproof Exclusive)
500 copies - Bloodshot Reborn #1 (C2E2 Woodward Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Salgado Harrisburg Comic & POP Con)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Kitson Exclusive)
500 copies - Harbinger Wars II #1 (Salgado Baltimore ComicCon)
500 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Adams South Carolina ComicCon Sketch)
500 copies - Fallen World #1 (OASAS w/ Jae Lee ink & June Lee Colors)
500 Copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Bedrock City Comics - Houston Pride Variant - Brent Peeples
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Tucci Borderlands Comics Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Desjardins Bulletproof Comics Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Massafera Comics To Astonish Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Dekal Groundbreaking Comics Variant)
500 Copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Salgado Harrisburg COmic & Pop Con 2019 Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Lee OASAS comics Variant/LACC 2019 Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Lee OASAS comics Variant/NYCC 2019 B&W Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Corona Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Bosslogic Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Shah Planet Awesome Collectibles/NYCC 2019 Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Sayger Prideland Collectibles Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (SaiinaSix Space Cadets Variant)
500 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Murphy Brute Fitness Variant)
550 copies - Fallen World #1 (Nerd Store/Wasatch ComicCon)
600 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Choi Frankie's Comics Variant)
650 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Choi Paradise / Wondercon)
750 copies - Punk Mambo (2019) #1 (Knowhere Exclusive Jen Bartel)
750 copies - The Life & Death of Toyo Harada #1 (Adams South Carolina ComicCon)
1,000 copies - Bloodshot (2019) #1 (Mattina Midtown Comics/NYCC 2019 Variant)
2,000 copies - X-O Manowar #1 (2017) (LaRosa Virgin Humble Bundle) - Signed by LaRosa

SPECIAL BOOKS (Purposely created with 1 copy each)
1 copy - Bloodshot Salvation #12 (LaRosa Vin Diesel Variant)
1 copy - Quantum And Woody (2017) #1 (Second Print)
1 copy - Unity #1 (Hitch Golden Ticket)
1 copy - Unity #1 (Jones Golden Ticket)
1 copy - Unity #1 (Rivera Golden Ticket)
1 copy - Unity #1 (Foreman Golden Ticket)
1 copy - Unity #1 (Crain Golden Ticket)


For those that are interested my figures match Greg’s calculations from his rarest 100 books 2012 to January 2016 except in 6 cases which are the following:

1. ARCHER & ARMSTRONG #25 50 COPY INCV WALSH (108 copies calculated) I get 117 and cannot match Greg’s figure
31. UNITY #24 CVR B 20 COPY INCV BARRIONUEVO (214 copies calculated) I get 236 which I believe is the correct figure as Greg used 4,493 in his calculation not the Comichrom 4944
32. THE VALIANT #2 (OF 4) 50 COPY INCV FRANCAVILLA (218 copies calculated) I get 200 which I believe is the correct figure as Greg missed the 1:10 ratio book when doing his calculations
53. DIVINITY #1 (OF 4) CVR E 40 COPY INCV LAROSA (257 copies calculated) I get 269 and cannot match Greg’s figure
64. ARCHER & ARMSTRONG #25 20 COPY INCV CALAFIORE (268 copies calculated) I get 291 and cannot match Greg’s figure
95. IVAR TIMEWALKER #1 50 COPY INCV KITSON (295 copies calculated). I get 270 which I believe is the correct figure as Greg missed the 1:10 ratio book when doing his calculations

Also, this exercise let me find a couple of small corrections that need to be made in the site’s price guide.

1) Unity 17 1:10 and Unity 19 1:10 need to be removed from the price guide as they do not exist (only 1:20 books ratio books exist)
2) Eternal Warrior Days of Steel 1 1:20 needs to be removed from the price guide. It was released as a 1:15 but they price guide lists both
3) Similarly, Divinity 2 1:120 needs to be removed from the price guide. It was released as a 1:15 but the price guide lists both.

Note I did not have exact sales numbers for the following books and needed to estimate:
Bloodshot 24 Not in top 300, Less than 6,326 used 6,000
Death Defying Dr Mirage 2 Not in top 300, Less than 6,326 used 6,000
Death Defying Dr Mirage 3 Not in top 300, Less than 5,200 used 5,000
Delinquents 3 Not in top 300, Less than 6,326 used 6,000
Faith and the Future Force 2 Not in top 300, Used 5,000
Generation Zero 8 Not in top 300, Used 3,800
Harbinger Omegas 3 Not in top 300, Less than 6,326 used 6,000
Quantum & Woody (2013) 12 Not in top 300, Less than 6,595 used 6,000
War Mother 4 Not in top 300, Used 4,600

I hope this is useful to be and I believe it to be correct but when dealing with 930 variant books there might be the occasional error.

The next project it to try and build a database of every Valiant cover including retailer books.
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These are the incentive covers included (up to April 2019, the May books are not included). Note X-O Manowar (2017) 25 and 26 got cut off. They each had a 1:20 cover

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Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:20) actually has 600 printed copies. Initially there was a miscommunication between Dinesh and I where he thought I was referencing the highest ratio variant for each Imperium book, which for issue #1 would be Braithwaite 1:40 that had 350 copies.

Dinesh later corrected this, and confirmed:

350 copies - Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:40) - Harada cover
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magnus20009 wrote:Note I did not have exact sales numbers for the following books and needed to estimate:
Death Defying Dr Mirage 2 Not in top 300, Less than 6,326 used 6,000
Death Defying Dr Mirage 3 Not in top 300, Less than 5,200 used 5,000
Since the numbers for the other issues are:
Death Defying Doctor Mirage #1: 7154
Death Defying Doctor Mirage #4: 4101
Death Defying Doctor Mirage #5: 3915

I would put the numbers for each of those closer to 4500, since numbers typically drop off after #1. Also, since the first issue had a regular edition, a sketch cover, and a Plus edition, the numbers would have been larger for that with three covers being ordered.

I'm not sure if the numbers for the Plus edition are included in the totals for #1, since it had a different cover price, but if it wasn't then the total for that book would be less than 6262, since it's not in the top 300. But since Rai #1 also had a Plus edition, and much larger sales (close to 30K), and the Plus for that is not listed separately, and almost certainly would have been in the top 300 if they had broken it out, I assume that the totals for #1 include all three covers. That means at least one of those covers had less than 2384 distributed, since they were likely not all ordered in the exact same quantities.

I think the first mini seriously flies under the radar, since it had no incentives and each issue after #1 only had one cover, and collectors tend to focus on the incentives.

Considering the sales numbers are so low on recent books without incentives, and most of them have at least three covers, there are probably some books in the recent runs that are going to be really tough to find on the aftermarket later.
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That is an impressive list. For me, the question is if there is a pattern (or predictable percentage increase) as to these projected numbers and the actual printed numbers (which are obviously larger). In other words, did they say we are going to need “x” number of books printed.... so increase that number by 20% (for damages, artist copies, etc.). Maybe they just tacked on a couple of hundred copies for the lower print runs no matter what the needed number to be printed was??

If there is a pattern.... then we should have a decent idea of all of these print numbers.

So, was the reasoning for ordering print runs for variants consistent? When we have enough concrete numbers they will have to be placed next to the above “projected numbers” to see if there is any type of pattern.

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Juki wrote:That is an impressive list. For me, the question is if there is a pattern (or predictable percentage increase) as to these projected numbers and the actual printed numbers (which are obviously larger). In other words, did they say we are going to need “x” number of books printed.... so increase that number by 20% (for damages, artist copies, etc.). Maybe they just tacked on a couple of hundred copies for the lower print runs no matter what the needed number to be printed was??

If there is a pattern.... then we should have a decent idea of all of these print numbers.

So, was the reasoning for ordering print runs for variants consistent? When we have enough concrete numbers they will have to be placed next to the above “projected numbers” to see if there is any type of pattern.
This has been discussed at length in numerous places. The bottom line is, barring publishers releasing the information, there's no way to know for sure. The best we can do is use the data available to determine the maximum number that retailers would have been qualified to order. In some cases we do know print runs, because Dinesh has stated what they are. It's not a foolproof method, but we could compare those numbers to what we estimate with the numbers we have for all books to see if we can determine a curve to apply to the estimates, to find a number that might be more accurate.
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Juki wrote:the question is if there is a pattern (or predictable percentage increase) as to these projected numbers and the actual printed numbers (which are obviously larger). In other words, did they say we are going to need “x” number of books printed.... so increase that number by 20% (for damages, artist copies, etc.). Maybe they just tacked on a couple of hundred copies for the lower print runs no matter what the needed number to be printed was??

If there is a pattern.... then we should have a decent idea of all of these print numbers.

So, was the reasoning for ordering print runs for variants consistent? When we have enough concrete numbers they will have to be placed next to the above “projected numbers” to see if there is any type of pattern.
Very difficult.

It seems that patterns might exist during a similar publishing month; however, there is NO pattern between 2012 and 2019 as a whole.

Shadowman #13 (Davis 1:50) and Eternal Warrior #5 (Mack 1:50) both followed the same pattern with about 222-224 MORE than predicted.

Imperium variants were mostly 100-200 MORE than predicted (though Imperium #3 (1:20) was almost right on the money with only 31 MORE copies than predicted). For the LOW print run books, expecting 100-200 copies MORE than predicted would almost make sense....

...however, you also have books like A&A #5 (1:50) where 143 copies were expected, and 675 were printed. That is 532 MORE than predicted. Britannia #2 (1:50) had 147 copies expected, with 600 printed (which is 453 more than predicted). Books like this pretty much destroy any pattern.

However, what we 100% can predict is that in nearly every example, there were MORE books printed that predicted.

ZERO books I have looked at had LESS copies printed than what was predicted.

I typed predicted a LOT in this post.

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Two quotes that I wanted to pull out from the previous threads. We know that print runs were greater than what the Comichron numbers would predict as Comichron does not capture all comics sales plus there are more books printed for damages, giveways, artists, etc, but we also know, that at least under Dinesh that after the extra books not needed were destroyed meaning that the total number of books printed were not the total number of books that exist.
dino wrote:Was texted and asked to weigh in here on the metal cover print runs. Have only read this page, not the whole thread, but also wanted to tackle two quotes below.

The metal covers were indeed printed to the approximate numbers we promoted (as were all the covers while I was there). If memory serves the X-O Manowar metal was within 50 copies of the print run we messaged. We always print a little extra for damages, replacements, comps and a few gifts etc but we were fiercely protective of the numbers we stated publicly, the perceived print run a ratio we assigned a cover would suggest to fans buying the books and ultimately the after market value. There is no warehouse of VEI variants (at least from 2012 - early 2018) waiting to be discovered and tank prices.
greg wrote:Publishers aren't in the business of limiting their own sales.
Agreed but the best way to do not limit your own sales in the long term is actually to occasionally limit sales in the short term. Messaging a print run and then over printing a cover is a great way to teach retailers and fans that either Valiant books aren't going to maintain value in the after market or Valiant can't be trusted to protect fans who shell out big bucks for a high end cover. Conversely, if retailers and fans buy in to a high end cover and find that it holds or grows in value they are more likely to buy in again and again. We would happily forgo the retailers who wanted to buy more shelf copies than they could actually sell to readers in order to get an extra high end for slow and steady growth. It's one of the reasons our sales went up every year.
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This was something I paid close attention to. Other publishers would do this regularly and with good reason. It can be very valuable in fostering business relationships and building fans. But it can have a high cost if you're giving away books retailers and fans had to pay dearly for. The last thing a publisher should want is high end books flooding the market. When people stopped by the offices and we sent them away with goodies they'd leave with a ton of trades, some hardcovers, a few bits of merch and a gold book or two. That's what the gold books were for. They're giveaways. Any extra high end covers lived hidden in my office or occasionally Atom's office. No where else. On the rare occasion where we would gift a high end cover I always approved it personally. If I wasn't in the office Atom, Hunter or Warren (the only people trusted with knowledge of where the high ends were hidden would call me to approve the gift). That's why so many of the high end covers are still commanding big prices today.

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Ricomortis wrote:Let's not forget another very very important FACT!

The print runs of the variants you listed are the number that the ratio of the variant says they needed to print. (1:40 Braithwaite variant had 350 copies, which is confirmed by Dino) These were more then what was required (I calculated that they needed 250 to cover the ratio). Dino said the extras (100 in this case) were to cover damages and needs in case of problems. He also stated in an interview that after returns and what not the extras (minus a few to keep in case) were destroyed. That includes the books that didn't meet the requirement. (For instance, many retailers only order a few copies for their store and did not qualify for the variant.) So apparently, those were destroyed as well.

I think the print runs are awesome to go by, but by what Dino said, the actual amount left in existence can be less than the print run.

Just saying!

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I believe Dino has referred to possibly having mistakes like "misprints" or "printing errors" destroyed and having replacements sent out. But, I haven't heard of him, or anyone else that was employed by Valiant say that extra low print Variant books were destroyed. Personally, I would find it hard to believe that extras of lower print runs were destroyed on a routine basis (simply because they are already in such small numbers).

We know that Valiant printed 400 copies of Imperium #5. If they ended up with half of these going unclaimed/not needed; would they really destroy 200 of them? 200 is such a small number that it seems like they would find another use to save them (give them to loyal comic shops/fans, etc.)

I guess anything is possible.... but it would seem like destroying extra copies would only make sense in the severe miscalculation and overprinting of a more common issue (like a cover A, B, or C) where you are stuck with 1000+ to multiple 1000s in extras.

This is an interesting "behind the curtains" topic about how VEI handled things in the Dino era (2012-2018). If they actually did destroy all extra copies of print runs of 500 or less....what was the reason? Was it to respect the fans that had bought them and keep them as limited as possible? If so, did they destroy extras in 2012 (the first year of VEI)? That would mean that the 1:50, 1:20, etc. Variants are more limited than the 1000 print per issue that was believed to be the minimum in 2012.

Is DMG handling things the same way now?

Hopefully, someone with some inside knowledge will eventually elaborate on specific details about destruction of extra copies.

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Juki wrote:I believe Dino has referred to possibly having mistakes like "misprints" or "printing errors" destroyed and having replacements sent out. But, I haven't heard of him, or anyone else that was employed by Valiant say that extra low print Variant books were destroyed. Personally, I would find it hard to believe that extras of lower print runs were destroyed on a routine basis (simply because they are already in such small numbers).

We know that Valiant printed 400 copies of Imperium #5. If they ended up with half of these going unclaimed/not needed; would they really destroy 200 of them? 200 is such a small number that it seems like they would find another use to save them (give them to loyal comic shops/fans, etc.)

I guess anything is possible.... but it would seem like destroying extra copies would only make sense in the severe miscalculation and overprinting of a more common issue (like a cover A, B, or C) where you are stuck with 1000+ to multiple 1000s in extras.

This is an interesting "behind the curtains" topic about how VEI handled things in the Dino era (2012-2018). If they actually did destroy all extra copies of print runs of 500 or less....what was the reason? Was it to respect the fans that had bought them and keep them as limited as possible? If so, did they destroy extras in 2012 (the first year of VEI)? That would mean that the 1:50, 1:20, etc. Variants are more limited than the 1000 print per issue that was believed to be the minimum in 2012.

Is DMG handling things the same way now?

Hopefully, someone with some inside knowledge will eventually elaborate on specific details about destruction of extra copies.
I believe Dino has confirmed that extras were destroyed and not kept but I supposed he can be asked again to 100% confirm.

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kjjohanson wrote:I'm not sure if the numbers for the Plus edition are included in the totals for #1, since it had a different cover price, but if it wasn't then the total for that book would be less than 6262, since it's not in the top 300. But since Rai #1 also had a Plus edition, and much larger sales (close to 30K), and the Plus for that is not listed separately, and almost certainly would have been in the top 300 if they had broken it out, I assume that the totals for #1 include all three covers.
According to JJM (administrator) at Comichron, only the books with the same cover price are combined for the totals reported. The Plus editions (being higher cover prices) are not included in the totals, and if they're not listed separately, they have counts too low to be included.

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question:
82 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:100
137 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:60
Do these books actually exist? I've looked everywhere for anything remotely like this, but come up empty. Not even Valiant's page has anything other than 4 basic, 1:10 and 1:20.
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TheeBaldMoose wrote:question:
82 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:100
137 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:60
Do these books actually exist? I've looked everywhere for anything remotely like this, but come up empty. Not even Valiant's page has anything other than 4 basic, 1:10 and 1:20.
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kjjohanson wrote:I'm not sure if the numbers for the Plus edition are included in the totals for #1, since it had a different cover price, but if it wasn't then the total for that book would be less than 6262, since it's not in the top 300. But since Rai #1 also had a Plus edition, and much larger sales (close to 30K), and the Plus for that is not listed separately, and almost certainly would have been in the top 300 if they had broken it out, I assume that the totals for #1 include all three covers.
According to JJM (administrator) at Comichron, only the books with the same cover price are combined for the totals reported. The Plus editions (being higher cover prices) are not included in the totals, and if they're not listed separately, they have counts too low to be included.
Doesn't it seem highly unlikely that the Rai #1 Plus edition wouldn't be in the top 400? Comichron reported 29,137 copies of #1 (adjusted because of returnability I believe), ranked at #73. They list the top 400, with #400 selling 2823. It seems unlikely that given the bonus content, they would have sold less than that.
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TheeBaldMoose wrote:question:
82 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:100
137 copies of Bloodshot Reborn #0 1:60
Do these books actually exist? I've looked everywhere for anything remotely like this, but come up empty. Not even Valiant's page has anything other than 4 basic, 1:10 and 1:20.
Thanks for the catch. There is an error in the database as Bloodshot Reborn 0 was pulling variant data from the Bloodshot Reborn 1 variant fields and viceversa. Bloodshot Reborn #0 has 1:10 and 1:20 variants while Bloodshot Reborn #1 has a 1:10, 1:20 1:60 and 1:100. I have fixed this error and the Bloodshot Reborn 0 and Bloodshot Reborn #1 figures are feeding correctly now.

You can see on the big picture in my second post what is in the database regarding variants (Bloodshot Reborn #0 and #1 are listed correctly there)..

Sorry for the error. With a database this big and no one to double check the work I am sure there is a bug or two in it. Consider this the beta version. This is why I check all my figures against those Greg did up to 2016.

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Updated through July 2019 sales.

Look how rare the PSILords 1 Cosmic Metal (the 1:250) book is. A 9.8 copy selling for $400 :o :roll: facepalm yesterday on eBay in CGC 9.8 was what made me want to update this.

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magnus20009 wrote:Updated through July 2019 sales.

Look how rare the PSILords 1 Cosmic Metal (the 1:250) book is. A 9.8 copy selling for $400 :o :roll: facepalm yesterday on eBay in CGC 9.8 was what made me want to update this.
While rare, yes, Psi-Lords (as a series) has not exactly played out as a mega hit. Under optimal circumstances, Psi-Lords #1 (1:250) would have easily been a perfect collector's gem, in that it has a low estimated print run with the significance of multiple first appearances. However, unless things change, modern Psi-Lords fans do not appear to be arriving at the party in large quantities, nor do they appear to be motivated enough to break out their wallets much to show their love to Tank and Co or the cat people.

Rare is often a good indicator of value, but just because something is actually rare does not make it valuable.

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DirtbagSailor wrote: Rare is often a good indicator of value, but just because something is actually rare does not make it valuable.
Agree. That’s what I like about my other hobby - collecting hockey cards. Plenty of rare cards but not that many people that care.

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Updated through September 2019

Additions are:

112 copies of Doctor Mirage #1 1:100
165 copies of Bloodshot (2019) #1 1:250

(Although I really feel Valiant prints a lot more of these books than the numbers would suggest - and we know most stores are not ordering 250 or 100 copies of a book just to get 1 variant).

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magnus20009 wrote:Updated through September 2019

Additions are:

112 copies of Doctor Mirage #1 1:100
165 copies of Bloodshot (2019) #1 1:250

(Although I really feel Valiant prints a lot more of these books than the numbers would suggest - and we know most stores are not ordering 250 or 100 copies of a book just to get 1 variant).
Makes that Midtowncomics sale price on Mirage 1 1:100 at $50 very attractive.

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Re: Top 1000 Rarest Valiant books 2012-April 2019 Maybe...

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nycjadie wrote:
magnus20009 wrote:Updated through September 2019

Additions are:

112 copies of Doctor Mirage #1 1:100
165 copies of Bloodshot (2019) #1 1:250

(Although I really feel Valiant prints a lot more of these books than the numbers would suggest - and we know most stores are not ordering 250 or 100 copies of a book just to get 1 variant).
Makes that Midtowncomics sale price on Mirage 1 1:100 at $50 very attractive.
Potentially except Valiant can print any number of copies they like, but they do announce incentive ratios via Previews and the monthly sales numbers are shown on Comichron.com. The calculations used to make this list are to determine what portion of Comichron.com sales numbers are likely to be non-incentives, then to apply the Preview incentive ratios to the non-incentive portion of the monthly Comichron number. It is likely that Valiant printed more copies than what is calculated because the calculation is for the first month of North American sales, not for worldwide orders. Additional copies are printed to allow for damages and for Valiant internal use (such as providing to artists, writers, etc.). Simply stated, this is all the information we have available that can be used to create a list like this.

As Dino has confirmed the print runs on the following below books, we know that the above underestimates the total number of each book, but it does perhaps provide a reference of relative scarcity of various issues.

In some cases that calculations can be way off the confirmed print runs (4001 AD #4 1:100 is the most egregious but it is possible that for interconnecting covers the same number of each piece is printed and 4001 AD #1 sold much better than 4001 AD #4). I believe it was also stated by Dino that when he was in charge that while Valiant printed more copies than were necessary most of the leftover copies that were not needed to be sent to retailers were destroyed (with only a few kept for damages or internal use) which might mean that the calculated number of copies is closer to the number of copies that survive.

101 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 450 copies - Savage #3 (LaRosa 1:50)
101 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 525 copies - 4001 A.D. #4 (Sook 1:100)
106 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 275 copies - Savage #4 (LaRosa 1:50)
108 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 200 copies - Bloodshot Salvation #1 (Suayan Brushed Metal 1:250)
113 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 275 copies - Rapture #4 (Suayan 1:50)
137 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Wrath of Eternal Warrior #4 (Lafuente 1:50)
140 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Savage #2 (LaRosa 1:50)
142 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 450 copies - Britannia #3 (Johnson 1:50)
143 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 675 copies - A&A: Adventures of Archer & Armstrong #5 (Lafuente 1:50)
147 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 600 copies - Britannia #2 (Johnson 1:50)
152 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 250 copies - Harbinger #25 (Kitson 1:50)
152 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 300 copies - Savage #1 (LaRosa 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Savage
176 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Shadowman #13 (Davis 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Punk Mambo
178 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Eternal Warrior #5 (Mack 1:50) - 1st (Modern) Appearance of the world of 4001 A.D.
214 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Imperium #16 (Montoya 1:20)
217 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #15 (Doyle 1:20)
220 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #14 (Ryp 1:20)
226 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #12 (Palo 1:20)
229 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #13 (Ryp 1:20)
235 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 325 copies - Imperium #11 (Walsh 1:20)
248 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 425 copies - Imperium #9 (Ryp 1:20)
250 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Imperium #10 (De La Torre 1:20)
256 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:40) - 1st Appearance of Sunlight on Snow (Mech Major)
262 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - X-O Manowar #15 (Kotaki 1:50) - 1st Appearance of COL Jamie Capshaw
262 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 500 copies - Harbinger Wars #3 (Zircher 1:50) - 1st (Modern) Appearance of H.A.R.D. Corps
269 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Divinity #1 (LaRosa 1:40) - 1st Appearance of Abram Adams (Divinity)
287 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Imperium #6 (Kano 1:20)
298 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 450 copies - Imperium #8 (Henry 1:20)
299 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 330 copies - Imperium #3 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of LV-99 (Lord Vine)
306 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Imperium #7 (Tan 1:20)
313 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 400 copies - Imperium #5 (Grace 1:20)
314 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 350 copies - Imperium #2 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Angela Peace Baingana; Gravedog
316 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 425 copies - Imperium #4 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Interdimensional Angela vessel
351 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 800 copies - Harbinger Wars #1 (Zircher 1:50) - 1st Appearance of Generation Zero
512 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 600 copies - Imperium #1 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Sunlight on Snow (Mech Major)
821 Copies Calculated Based on Sales. Confirmed is 2,000 copies - Harbinger #2 (Braithwaite 1:20) - 1st Appearance of Darpan

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Re: Top 1000 Rarest Valiant books 2012-April 2019 Maybe...

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The difference between calculated and confirmed by Dinesh, is this because sales numbers are only American sales numbers (does that include Canada? in the calculation of comics distributed)
Remember European Sales, which I don't think are included in sales numbers by Diamond.
Is this the discrepancy between calculated and Dinesh's numbers?

Not trying to bring off topic ~ but then the overall sales numbers reported that we see posted here in sales numbers for each month ~ if calculated from Dinesh's numbers ~ would be higher. Even higher that just multiplication of variant numbers as shops may order less than the incentive number.

Looking at the difference between Dinesh's numbers and calculation of variants may provide an insight to the popularity of certain titles to different international markets.

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Phantom wrote:The difference between calculated and confirmed by Dinesh, is this because sales numbers are only American sales numbers (does that include Canada? in the calculation of comics distributed)
Remember European Sales, which I don't think are included in sales numbers by Diamond.
Is this the discrepancy between calculated and Dinesh's numbers?

Not trying to bring off topic ~ but then the overall sales numbers reported that we see posted here in sales numbers for each month ~ if calculated from Dinesh's numbers ~ would be higher. Even higher that just multiplication of variant numbers as shops may order less than the incentive number.

Looking at the difference between Dinesh's numbers and calculation of variants may provide an insight to the popularity of certain titles to different international markets.

Just saying. Hope did not disrupt thread.
Those are good points.

The Comichron numbers only include North American (USA plus Canada) sales made through Diamond so Europe and Asia are excluded plus any other distribution channels that Valiant used.

If we look at a book like Savage 4 Comichron sales its sales were 6,156 and that would be across cover A, cover B, the 1:10 incentive, 1:20 incentive and 1:50 incentive.

Assuming each store ordered exactly enough comics to always qualify for variants and did not order any excess books and no store ordered less than the exact number to qualify for variants the number of each issue would be:

Covers A & B = 5,261.54 (no way to differentiate how many of each)
Cover 1:10 incentive = 526.15
Cover 1:20 incentive = 263.08
Cover 1:50 incentive = 105.23

Now Dino says they printed 275 copies of the Savage 4 1:50 variant. If they were all earned by retailers that would mean if all stores ordered exactly 50 of other covers there would be 13,750 in total sales of non-1:50 books versus 6,050 (6,156-105) reported by Comichron, meaning an extra 7,700 of overseas and other distribution sales While I think Valiant had some overseas sales and used some other distribution channels I do not think they would account for more than half their sales.

More likely is Valiant printed more copies than they needed (perhaps there is a minimum print run required by the printer) and used the extras for artists, giveaways, damages and under Dino destroyed the extras (wonder if DMG does the same). Also, I think it would be highly unlikely that most stores would be ordering enough to qualify exactly for 1:50 books.

For a Doctor Mirage 1 I just can't see there being 112 retailers that ordered 100 copies of the book (or in 100 copy lots) and I expect Valiant would have printed more than 112 copies. Realistically how many retailers are of the scale that could/would order 100 copies. My guess would be less than 25 and there are certainly more than 25 copies of the 1:100 book floating around.

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The numbers put forward are interesting on Savage.
Yes it does seem high on international sales.
Did a quick google check on populations, very quick.
The site did not break down which countries where in 'EUROPE', 747 million.
Australia New Zealand 30 million
Asia I did not check. billions
America 329 Million.

Not trying to start an argument, but I think when you see low sales numbers it is easily doubled due to international market.

I do agree that when 100 earned, why print 100 of one comic? Dineshs numbers multiplied maybe closer to numbers sold. As not all retailers would qualify for variants books, due to ordering under variant ratio. Also to give away comics.

I maybe wrong, I recall when I worked in Australia 20 years ago, we ordered direct from USA. So Australian books maybe under USA sales ~ but that is along time ago.

At a comic con in England a UK diamond distributer has a booth. I cannot recall exact conversation with him, but all? books pass through UK diamond.

My biggest question is, why not just be open and honest about print run of each book. Dinesh did reveal some print runs over the years, which did tell us that the numbers presented by others where significantly lower than the actual print run of the book. XO 1? it may have been.

So going back to monthly sales, and I sometimes get caught out, thinking ~ how can a publisher survive on such low number ~ catalyst prime imprint under Lion Forge, just double the number ( still below valiant, and his Dad is a billionaire) but you get my drift.

Even doubling numbers, I cannot see profit, maybe with downloads and tradepaperbacks they break even in the publishing arm (talking Valiant again now).

:offtopic: Back to rarest comics.
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Re: Top 1000 Rarest Valiant books 2012-April 2019 Maybe...

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May I know what does the LW stand for? Thanks!


712 copies of Archer & Armstrong #1 LW 1:100
1267 copies of Bloodshot #1 LW 1:50


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