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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:14:56 pm 
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I saw this on eBay today. A Bloodshot Glass CGC 9.8 pre-order

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BLOODSHOT-RISI ... SwZs1b6-kV

Given that this book was just released today how can someone know that their copy will grade 9.8? Or are they just selling it now and will refund if it does not get that grade?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:21:00 pm 
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Wow... that IS odd. I wonder if they bought several to send to CGC and just figure that they will get at least a few 9.8s ??

Usually the first 9.8 of a very limited Valiant comic sells at a premium.


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That's gotta be the answer. Submit it, and as soon as they get it back, they send it to you. Anything less than a 9.8, and you'll get a refund

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:48:16 pm 
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I believe retailers all ordered lots of the glass covers by qualifying and then returning the regular covers so this store probably has enough that they know they will get some 9.8s


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:32:07 pm 
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I hate to suggest it but the baseline for the book may be 9.9. So while that really hasn't happened before I don't think we can rule it out here.


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I hate to suggest it but the baseline for the book may be 9.9. So while that really hasn't happened before I don't think we can rule it out here.


I dunno. In the copy I held, the lower left corner of the paper 'undercover' is kind of curved inwards, the spine was not straight. And when I looked on Ebay, other pictures showed the same thing. Not sure what CGC would do with that.


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I dont think the glass cover will be worth much I think to meny were ordered.

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I dont think the glass cover will be worth much I think to meny were ordered.


I just took a peek on eBay, 17 glass covers still on the shelf, prices are already starting to fall! Saw a couple asking $225ish for the book! This is just two days after the book was released, this could get ugly!

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I had asked for it in advance at one store, but the price was higher than I expected (not unreasonable though at $300), so I had to pass. I was told there were 18 others on the waiting list for the book. I know they still have at least one copy still available for sale, so either everyone else on the list passed too or they have a lot of copies....


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I dont think the glass cover will be worth much I think to meny were ordered.


I just took a peek on eBay, 17 glass covers still on the shelf, prices are already starting to fall! Saw a couple asking $225ish for the book! This is just two days after the book was released, this could get ugly!

You could say the price is shattering

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There actually tons of presales like this for alot.of new comics

Not surprised at all. Just float around ebay you will see tons of presales cgc 9.8 or 9.6


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CGC has said they are not grading this at this time, but not sure if they plan to change that.


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apacseller wrote:
CGC has said they are not grading this at this time, but not sure if they plan to change that.



Did CGC change their minds? I thought in the viewtopic.php?f=1&t=51839&start=25 thread they said they would be grading it.


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I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


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I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


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I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!

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I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
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I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


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syzhang28 wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
apacseller wrote:
I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


Yea, Dinesh worked hand in hand with CGC to ensure it met requirements. Sure, there was a bit of news, someone said that CGC wouldn't grade them, but that got worked out quickly. I'm hoping something gets done, but this doesn't bode well. Hoping we hear something from Valiant soon, but I'm not too sure we will (which would make me even more upset)

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
syzhang28 wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
apacseller wrote:
I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


Yea, Dinesh worked hand in hand with CGC to ensure it met requirements. Sure, there was a bit of news, someone said that CGC wouldn't grade them, but that got worked out quickly. I'm hoping something gets done, but this doesn't bode well. Hoping we hear something from Valiant soon, but I'm not too sure we will (which would make me even more upset)


What does that mean for those cgc glass covers being sold on ebay?


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syzhang28 wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
syzhang28 wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
apacseller wrote:
I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


Yea, Dinesh worked hand in hand with CGC to ensure it met requirements. Sure, there was a bit of news, someone said that CGC wouldn't grade them, but that got worked out quickly. I'm hoping something gets done, but this doesn't bode well. Hoping we hear something from Valiant soon, but I'm not too sure we will (which would make me even more upset)


What does that mean for those cgc glass covers being sold on ebay?


My guess, it won't happen. Still, it's WAAAY overpriced, as the last two auctions have shown a steep decline in price. This weekend, down to about $180. The one going on now, probably won't get much higher. Still, maybe there were wires crossed, I hope so, but I am not holding my breath. We were told they were going through the process with CGC, but then that news died off. Now this...

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If I actually thought the cover art was any good if buy 1 no matter if cgc grades them

But I can't get past the art, terrible to my eye


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If I actually thought the cover art was any good if buy 1 no matter if cgc grades them

But I can't get past the art, terrible to my eye


It's not just for this glass book, more for the future glass books. Livewire looks sharp, and I know there are a lot of people that are looking forward to the Toyo book.

I did have a bit of a conversation with Matt Klein, and he is looking into the matter

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
apacseller wrote:
I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


I believe that Dinesh had a conversation with CGC after the metal covers were produced, at a con. Same thing happened with the glass cover, but initial discussions said yes, they could do it. I figure it’s probably an inner well issue.


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syzhang28 wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
apacseller wrote:
I might be wrong, but I called their Customer Service and they checked with someone and called me back to say no.


I just recently sent an email, awaiting their reply. This would greatly affect my desire to purchase any of the rest of these books. Does anyone else feel this way about them? I mean, Livewire looks great and all, as well as Toyo, but no slab is rough!


Confirmed, CGC will NOT grade books with glass covers.

Welp, regardless of whatever glass covers come out now, I will not collect them...


Sad news and a pretty big tomato on Valiant's face. This kind of thing was always buttoned up when Dinesh and co were in charge.


I believe that Dinesh had a conversation with CGC after the metal covers were produced, at a con. Same thing happened with the glass cover, but initial discussions said yes, they could do it. I figure it’s probably an inner well issue.


Several members of the Valiant team from that period were involved in making sure CGC would grade the metal covers before we greenlit them. In fact, we altered several aspects of the cover to make it easier for CGC. CGC is an integral part of the collectible side of comics. Would not have produced the metal covers if CGC could not grade them.


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