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Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
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I’d say so. The same for Magnus. Turok less so because it wasn’t Shooter and high print runs.
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StarBrand wrote:Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
Why can't it be reprinted? :hm:

I think it can, just no reason to do it.

I think if VEI felt they could make money on it they would. I don't know if the pages have been digitally scanned. I remember Dinesh scanning a lot of the VH 1 stuff by hand many years ago. Others may have a better memory of this.
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wrunow wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
Why can't it be reprinted? :hm:

I think it can, just no reason to do it.

I think if VEI felt they could make money on it they would. I don't know if the pages have been digitally scanned. I remember Dinesh scanning a lot of the VH 1 stuff by hand many years ago. Others may have a better memory of this.
They can’t be reprinted because VEI does not own the rights.
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I think it's for the best if they can't rescan the originals or have access to the original masters. I looked at Harbinger: The Beginning hardcover recently and that digital coloring really doesn't age well. Along with the comic book scans (as opposed to original art scans) making the linework look blurry, it really does an injustice to those classic issues.

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Ya its to bad I'd love a turok hard cover.
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Ryan wrote:I think it's for the best if they can't rescan the originals or have access to the original masters. I looked at Harbinger: The Beginning hardcover recently and that digital coloring really doesn't age well. Along with the comic book scans (as opposed to original art scans) making the linework look blurry, it really does an injustice to those classic issues.
They can borrow my originals if they give me a signed HC. :twisted:

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Solar #0 page 15. Pencilled by Barry Windsor-Smith, inked by Bob Layton, and colored by Janet Jackson. Signed by Janet Jackson, Bob Layton, and Jim Shooter.

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Solar #0 page 22. Pencilled by Barry Windsor-Smith, inked by Bob Layton, and colored by Janet Jackson. Signed by Janet Jackson and Bob Layton.

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Solar #0 page 25. Pencilled by Barry Windsor-Smith, inked by Bob Layton, and colored by Janet Jackson. Signed by Bob Layton.

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iggy101us wrote: They can borrow my originals if they give me a signed HC. :twisted:
:thumb: How awesome would an oversized hardcover of the raw scans be? Like the IDW artist editions, but they would be in color since early Valiant colors were watercolors on actual paper. :cloud9:

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I've got the full inks to 3 full issues of Rai (no covers).

I've got the full colors to 1 issue of Archer & Armstrong (no cover). I think DBS has the color cover.

It would be a lot of fun to see something like that in full-size, high quality print.

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nycjadie wrote:I've got the full colors to 1 issue of Archer & Armstrong (no cover). I think DBS has the color cover.
Is this the cover you're referring to? https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypie ... ce=1361274" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I do believe that is the one! Yours?

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Love those pages! :clap:

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I bet an artist edition of Unity 1 and 0 would sell loads. Valiant, iconic characters, BWS.

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Aram wrote:
wrunow wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
Why can't it be reprinted? :hm:

I think it can, just no reason to do it.

I think if VEI felt they could make money on it they would. I don't know if the pages have been digitally scanned. I remember Dinesh scanning a lot of the VH 1 stuff by hand many years ago. Others may have a better memory of this.
They can’t be reprinted because VEI does not own the rights.


Who does then?

I think they own the intellectual property of Acclaim and VALIANT/Voyager Comm. I would think they would have every right to reprint, just not publish new material with the characters.

I'm not a IP lawyer, maybe I'm wrong.
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wrunow wrote:
Aram wrote:
wrunow wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
Why can't it be reprinted? :hm:

I think it can, just no reason to do it.

I think if VEI felt they could make money on it they would. I don't know if the pages have been digitally scanned. I remember Dinesh scanning a lot of the VH 1 stuff by hand many years ago. Others may have a better memory of this.
They can’t be reprinted because VEI does not own the rights.


Who does then?

I think they own the intellectual property of Acclaim and VALIANT/Voyager Comm. I would think they would have every right to reprint, just not publish new material with the characters.

I'm not a IP lawyer, maybe I'm wrong.
Purely speculation here, I think whoever currently has the rights to publish an IP can also reprint the previous material. Which makes reprinting early Valiant and Unity difficult because of the mix of licensed characters and original Valiant characters.

For an example, look at the Conan license. When Dark Horse had it they were able to reprint all of the old Marvel material, now that Marvel has the license again they can reprint the Dark Horse stuff if they want, but Dark Horse no longer can. Same deal with the Star Wars license.

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Ryan wrote:
wrunow wrote:
Aram wrote:
wrunow wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Is it fair to say Shooter’s Solar run can’t be reprinted? Does this help its value?
Why can't it be reprinted? :hm:

I think it can, just no reason to do it.

I think if VEI felt they could make money on it they would. I don't know if the pages have been digitally scanned. I remember Dinesh scanning a lot of the VH 1 stuff by hand many years ago. Others may have a better memory of this.
They can’t be reprinted because VEI does not own the rights.


Who does then?

I think they own the intellectual property of Acclaim and VALIANT/Voyager Comm. I would think they would have every right to reprint, just not publish new material with the characters.

I'm not a IP lawyer, maybe I'm wrong.
Purely speculation here, I think whoever currently has the rights to publish an IP can also reprint the previous material. Which makes reprinting early Valiant and Unity difficult because of the mix of licensed characters and original Valiant characters.

For an example, look at the Conan license. When Dark Horse had it they were able to reprint all of the old Marvel material, now that Marvel has the license again they can reprint the Dark Horse stuff if they want, but Dark Horse no longer can. Same deal with the Star Wars license.
I get that argument.

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When VEI had announced the new Harbinger hardcover in... 2008?, we put the question to Dino about reprinting Solar's appearance and he said that as he understood it, they could reprint the old Valiant material in which the licensed characters appeared but could not advertise them. There was also a question about X-calibre/Sniper.

Could they release a reprint of the VH1 era Magnus or Solar or Turok? I don't know. My inclination is to say no but maybe they could, with a different title, even keeping the names the same in the book. Call it like the Valiant Era 4001 or the Valiant Era: the Lost Land or something like that.

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You have to follow the license. All license terms are different. If they can't reprint Magnus/Solar, then that might also mean they can't reprint Unity. I haven't looked at the Valiant Masters, but that could provide a clue if say Magnus was included in those issues.

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nycjadie wrote:You have to follow the license. All license terms are different. If they can't reprint Magnus/Solar, then that might also mean they can't reprint Unity. I haven't looked at the Valiant Masters, but that could provide a clue if say Magnus was included in those issues.
Solar is in the archer and Armstrong omnibus. I think it was just the book runs and covers they had to avoid. Unity is a good question though, since the gk3 were prominent.
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iggy101us wrote:
Ryan wrote:I think it's for the best if they can't rescan the originals or have access to the original masters. I looked at Harbinger: The Beginning hardcover recently and that digital coloring really doesn't age well. Along with the comic book scans (as opposed to original art scans) making the linework look blurry, it really does an injustice to those classic issues.
They can borrow my originals if they give me a signed HC. :twisted:

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Ryan wrote:I think it's for the best if they can't rescan the originals or have access to the original masters. I looked at Harbinger: The Beginning hardcover recently and that digital coloring really doesn't age well. Along with the comic book scans (as opposed to original art scans) making the linework look blurry, it really does an injustice to those classic issues.
I think Harbinger the beginning was the worst or those early hcs.
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I asked someone who would have a definitive answer and he basically said VEI would have to make a deal to reprint, but if someone else wanted to reprint they'd have to make a deal with them pretty much.

So I guess you guys are right.
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Aram wrote:
nycjadie wrote:You have to follow the license. All license terms are different. If they can't reprint Magnus/Solar, then that might also mean they can't reprint Unity. I haven't looked at the Valiant Masters, but that could provide a clue if say Magnus was included in those issues.
Solar is in the archer and Armstrong omnibus. I think it was just the book runs and covers they had to avoid. Unity is a good question though, since the gk3 were prominent.
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iggy101us wrote:
Aram wrote:
nycjadie wrote:You have to follow the license. All license terms are different. If they can't reprint Magnus/Solar, then that might also mean they can't reprint Unity. I haven't looked at the Valiant Masters, but that could provide a clue if say Magnus was included in those issues.
Solar is in the archer and Armstrong omnibus. I think it was just the book runs and covers they had to avoid. Unity is a good question though, since the gk3 were prominent.
Love this project from VCS.

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