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Hmm, that's really disappointing. Only Q&W is tying into HW2? No Harbinger title proper?

Also I'll vent here for a sec .... :rant:

As much as I'm looking forward to HW2 I gotta say I've never been a fan of hero vs hero stories. I do wonder if Harada, Solomon, Alpha or any of the Imperium characters will make an appearance? RENEGADE #0 ended on a pretty big cliffhanger, but so far all the promo stuff we've seen from HW2 is all X-O vs Peter and Livewire vs Bloodshot. It just doesn't feel organic to the way that previous events played out. The story I want to see is what is Alpha doing next with the HARD Corps characters he has under his control. And what's Harada's next step. I really don't care about the psychic worm in Peter's brain, it's such a Matt Kindt macguffiny thing to drop in.

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Looking forward to the June solicitations! Maybe Bloodshot at least will tie-in at that point. :?

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Its garbage sorry for being a downer but this blows or sounds like it will. Wtf no harbinger renagades or anything tieing in thats whats garbage.
The armor hunters and hw1 flowed organically this feels forced for forced sakes. It was promised so its happening. No ducks are in a row so its a shooting gallery at the fair.
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Whilst I think it's great to see a Q&W tie-in I am very disappointed that we don't get a Harby monthly to coincide with this event. Hopefully something comes out of the June solicitations.

Also, interesting to read that Shadowman is only a 3 issue arc - hiatus or surprise HWII tie-in in June?

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I keep thinking HW2 is going to kick off some stuff. But if something substantial is actually occurring they can't really announce it... right? I know preorders with comics causes some spoilers... but with HW2 launching really at the end of May... it'd probably be june if Renegades or even Secret Weapons popped in... Just saying...

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Bl00dsh0t wrote:Also, interesting to read that Shadowman is only a 3 issue arc - hiatus or surprise HWII tie-in in June?
I think there was an interview that mentioned them doing the Matt Kindt X-O thing, a bunch of shorter 3-issue arcs.

EDIT, Here it is:
In the wake of “FEAR OF THE DARK”’s blockbuster-level gauntlet of action and intrigue across issues #1-3, SHADOWMAN will then continue in 2018 and beyond as Andy Diggle forges ahead with a riveting, two-year roadmap that will redefine the boundaries of Valiant’s paranormal underworld…and that together will encompass the most ambitious and fearsome Shadowman tale ever told.

Diggle: I've plotted out the first two years as a series of short arcs, all building into one overarching story. I'm a structure freak, and one of the things I've loved about working at Valiant is they don't just allow, but insist on careful long-term story planning. That's a gift for a writer, knowing you won't have to wreck your story structure to make room for some sudden unplanned crossover. It's like having a safety net. You can sow seeds; set up story elements in the early issues that might not pay off until months or even years ahead - but it's all planned, it's all leading somewhere. Everything connects. That's what a shared universe should be. I love it.

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kinggirlfriend wrote:
Bl00dsh0t wrote:Also, interesting to read that Shadowman is only a 3 issue arc - hiatus or surprise HWII tie-in in June?
I think there was an interview that mentioned them doing the Matt Kindt X-O thing, a bunch of shorter 3-issue arcs.

EDIT, Here it is:
In the wake of “FEAR OF THE DARK”’s blockbuster-level gauntlet of action and intrigue across issues #1-3, SHADOWMAN will then continue in 2018 and beyond as Andy Diggle forges ahead with a riveting, two-year roadmap that will redefine the boundaries of Valiant’s paranormal underworld…and that together will encompass the most ambitious and fearsome Shadowman tale ever told.

Diggle: I've plotted out the first two years as a series of short arcs, all building into one overarching story. I'm a structure freak, and one of the things I've loved about working at Valiant is they don't just allow, but insist on careful long-term story planning. That's a gift for a writer, knowing you won't have to wreck your story structure to make room for some sudden unplanned crossover. It's like having a safety net. You can sow seeds; set up story elements in the early issues that might not pay off until months or even years ahead - but it's all planned, it's all leading somewhere. Everything connects. That's what a shared universe should be. I love it.
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HARBINGER WARS 2 #1 (of 4)
Written by MATT KINDT
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Cover A by J.G. JONES
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Interlocking Variant by JUAN JOSÉ RYP
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Brushed Metal Variant by LEWIS LAROSA
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And another Brushed Metal Variant! :!: This may put an end to my variant buying for good. :(

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Man, we got some Negative Nancy's up in here!

I too am worried and annoyed that there aren't any other HW2 tie-ins, but I think there might be a silver-lining. HW2 #1 comes out on the last week of May. It's entirely possible that all of the fun tie-ins will come after issue 1. During Armor Hunters' first month, only X-O and Unity tied-in. It wasn't until July that the Harbinger and Bloodshot tie-ins began.

After all, both Bloodshot and Shadowman are finishing up arcs in May, The Coalition's last issue will come out in either June or July, and X-O is already sort of tying in. Maybe every series will get 2-issue arcs like Q&W. I think that would be neat. DC's Metal has been doing this perfectly. It's only tied into one issue per series, but touched many corners of the universe: Teen Titans, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Suicide Squad, Flash, Hal Jordan, and Justice League.

On the flip side, there are 8 books coming out in May! Granted, one of them is essentially a re-print, but still.
kinggirlfriend wrote:As much as I'm looking forward to HW2 I gotta say I've never been a fan of hero vs hero stories. I do wonder if Harada, Solomon, Alpha or any of the Imperium characters will make an appearance? RENEGADE #0 ended on a pretty big cliffhanger, but so far all the promo stuff we've seen from HW2 is all X-O vs Peter and Livewire vs Bloodshot. It just doesn't feel organic to the way that previous events played out. The story I want to see is what is Alpha doing next with the HARD Corps characters he has under his control. And what's Harada's next step. I really don't care about the psychic worm in Peter's brain, it's such a Matt Kindt macguffiny thing to drop in.
I've honestly blocked out the events of Renegade and HW2 #0 for the last month due to the all of the buyout drama and hype for HW2. Personally, I'm kind of a sucker for herovhero stories (can't wait for the JLvJLA arc coming up soon), but I will be really disappointed if Alpha, Solomon, Harada, and Palmer don't play a significant role. It's awesome that X-O, Ninjak, Bloodshot, and even Secret Weapons are playing a part, but they shouldn't have to overshadow everything that's been building up with the Renegades and Solomon.

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TheFerg714 wrote:
kinggirlfriend wrote:I do wonder if Harada, Solomon, Alpha or any of the Imperium characters will make an appearance? RENEGADE #0 ended on a pretty big cliffhanger... The story I want to see is what is Alpha doing next with the HARD Corps characters he has under his control. And what's Harada's next step.
...but I will be really disappointed if Alpha, Solomon, Harada, and Palmer don't play a significant role.
Agreed! I'd go as far to say that it would be bad writing to leave them out of a huge event like this.
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Harbinger Renegade was the most hated book on this forum that I've seen. Now its not where you want it, when you want it and there's more complaining. I'm just happy we still have Valiant comics. I'm afraid that won't last long.

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onearmedwampa3000 wrote:Harbinger Renegade was the most hated book on this forum that I've seen. Now its not where you want it, when you want it and there's more complaining. I'm just happy we still have Valiant comics. I'm afraid that won't last long.

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onearmedwampa3000 wrote:Harbinger Renegade was the most hated book on this forum that I've seen. Now its not where you want it, when you want it and there's more complaining. I'm just happy we still have Valiant comics. I'm afraid that won't last long.

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Regardless of whether anyone liked it or not, VEI made a conscious decision to go with Roberts' vision in the lead-up to HW2. It would be really lazy and stupid to abandon everything they put into that series at the eleventh hour, just because it wasn't the best received book in the world. Basically what I'm saying is that VEI made their bed, now they have to lie in it.

VEI made a decision and now must accept its consequences.

And honestly, imo, as bad as Renegade was, it still set up some very interesting concepts and characters like Solomon, the Massacre, Pete's return, HARD Corps de facto working for the government, Alpha, the Renegades v Solomon v HARD Corps conflict, and the Renegades' rounding up of young psiots.

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TheFerg714 wrote:
onearmedwampa3000 wrote:Harbinger Renegade was the most hated book on this forum that I've seen. Now its not where you want it, when you want it and there's more complaining. I'm just happy we still have Valiant comics. I'm afraid that won't last long.

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Regardless of whether anyone liked it or not, VEI made a conscious decision to go with Roberts' vision in the lead-up to HW2. It would be really lazy and stupid to abandon everything they put into that series at the eleventh hour, just because it wasn't the best received book in the world. Basically what I'm saying is that VEI made their bed, now they have to lie in it.

VEI made a decision and now must accept its consequences.

And honestly, imo, as bad as Renegade was, it still set up some very interesting concepts and characters like Solomon, the Massacre, Pete's return, HARD Corps de facto working for the government, Alpha, the Renegades v Solomon v HARD Corps conflict, and the Renegades' rounding up of young psiots.
I agree.

I hope Diggle's Shadowman approach is similar to Renegades HW2... they build on it... make it better by delivering on whatever it was starting to think about to sprinkle in set up to create some form of anticipation of what ever it was that was the focus of this or that issue.

But I would think VEI would be wise to rebrand Harbinger's ongoing if that comes out of HW2. A new #1! An Icons line for our Renegades!


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