Sales of all Valiant titles so far

Aram · Post by **Aram** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:10:47 pm

I messed up my math.. It looked like it was around a little over or near 3 million total issues printed. Does anyone know the actual number?

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:16:43 pm

Aram wrote:I messed up my math.. It looked like it was around a little over or near 3 million total issues printed. Does anyone know the actual number?

With these provided numbers, the total comes out to 2,437,438. However, this doesn't include additional printings and other books printed but not distributed by Diamond (as well as the 3 books without sales figures). My guess is that about 3 million is pretty close.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:20:08 pm

Whatever this means. And I don't mean Doom!, I was just curious. I may do some others, but it's harder with other books since they are breaking up into minis (like Harby) and I'm not sure I have the patience to rearrange all that data by release date.

Was steady until 10 and then a dropoff.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:35:01 am

jmatt wrote:Whatever this means. And I don't mean Doom!, I was just curious. I may do some others, but it's harder with other books since they are breaking up into minis (like Harby) and I'm not sure I have the patience to rearrange all that data by release date.

Was steady until 10 and then a dropoff.

Yeah, I was going to try to do some charts, but it's hard to organize everything with all the minis and starts of new titles which continue previous titles (like Harbinger/AH: Harbinger/Omegas/Imperium).

I suppose one could do one for each of the books that went to issue 25 (with the zero issues thrown in I publishing order).

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:03:37 pm

Looking at the numbers, I'm surprised at how soft the figures are for Q2. I'm not a huge QW fan, but I figured VEI was counting on pent up demand for new Priest / Bright QW material.

Started at 8200, quickly dropped to 5800 and ended at 4400. I'm thinking the super confusing first issue didn't help.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:05:34 am

jmatt wrote:Looking at the numbers, I'm surprised at how soft the figures are for Q2. I'm not a huge QW fan, but I figured VEI was counting on pent up demand for new Priest / Bright QW material.

Started at 8200, quickly dropped to 5800 and ended at 4400. I'm thinking the super confusing first issue didn't help.

If I had to guess, I'd say Q2 will do well in TPB sales.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:54:10 pm

BugsySig wrote:
jmatt wrote:Looking at the numbers, I'm surprised at how soft the figures are for Q2. I'm not a huge QW fan, but I figured VEI was counting on pent up demand for new Priest / Bright QW material.

Started at 8200, quickly dropped to 5800 and ended at 4400. I'm thinking the super confusing first issue didn't help.
If I had to guess, I'd say Q2 will do well in TPB sales.

I agree. There's probably a lot of original fans just trade waiting. Is it out yet? They don't usually wait long for the arc to end.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:55:24 pm

jmatt wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
jmatt wrote:Looking at the numbers, I'm surprised at how soft the figures are for Q2. I'm not a huge QW fan, but I figured VEI was counting on pent up demand for new Priest / Bright QW material.

Started at 8200, quickly dropped to 5800 and ended at 4400. I'm thinking the super confusing first issue didn't help.
If I had to guess, I'd say Q2 will do well in TPB sales.
I agree. There's probably a lot of original fans just trade waiting. Is it out yet? They don't usually wait long for the arc to end.

April or May for sure.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:08:13 pm

I think Valiant just overestimated the amount of people nostalgic for more Priest & Bright Q&W. Either that or they just threw Doc and Priest a bone out of respect.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:58:09 am

I was at Ed's shop today and I think he has about 1/2 the run of Q2 #5. Seriously. That's a lot of books.

krylox · Post by **krylox** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:46:35 am

Tim wrote:I think Valiant just overestimated the amount of people nostalgic for more Priest & Bright Q&W. Either that or they just threw Doc and Priest a bone out of respect.

i think they basically don't care if a q&w mini is in continuity one or two, because q&w are more or less a world of their own anyway.
vei will order as many mini-series as needed to finally nail the quintessential q&w story.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:52:19 pm

drmirage wrote:Great info!

I thought Unity #1 sold 68,000+ Copies.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=48789" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or are these actual sales #'s including returnability on Unity #1?

Do you have the data with the least sold copies?

Diamond discounts numbers by something like 10% if a book is returnable

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:24:40 pm

Updated with sales from March

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:35:30 pm

cool thread

At already 45K Bloodshot Reborn will be the 2nd highest selling comic so far for VEI

jasont215 · Post by **jasont215** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:39:32 am

So the number of TPB and HC's are always potentially increasing? Second, third, etc print runs of them aren't denoted differently somehow?

BugsySig wrote:
Joshua wrote:Is there anything like this pertaining to TPB and HC sales?
One could comb through the diamond/Comichron sales charts for collections and trades. Of course, more of these are potentially printed every month and would need to be totaled.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:57:41 am

jasont215 wrote:So the number of TPB and HC's are always potentially increasing? Second, third, etc print runs of them aren't denoted differently somehow?

BugsySig wrote:
Joshua wrote:Is there anything like this pertaining to TPB and HC sales?
One could comb through the diamond/Comichron sales charts for collections and trades. Of course, more of these are potentially printed every month and would need to be totaled.

The number of the printing is not referenced by Diamond. Regardless of printing, they only show up on the Diamond sales chart if they sell enough to make the list. But trades are usually reprinted regularly. Plus they can be sold directly to Amazon and book stores, as well I believe.

Joshua · Post by **Joshua** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:10:54 am

I wonder how the VEI back issue market is going to look in a few years. If the movies bring in more readers, which it may or may not do, there is so much material with a low print run...or Valiant just stays a small publisher.

This does remind me that I still don't own Omegas or all of Delinquents.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon May 18, 2015 12:09:23 pm

Updated with sales from April

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Mon May 18, 2015 12:12:01 pm

Nice to see a books numbers climbing, with Divinity 3 selling better than Divinity 2.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Mon May 18, 2015 12:29:31 pm

241 VAL Divinity (2015) 3 9,582 +198 from issue #2 +2.11% (The Interest Is Real!!)

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Mon May 18, 2015 9:12:47 pm

agent_graves wrote:241 VAL Divinity (2015) 3 9,582 +198 from issue #2 +2.11% (The Interest Is Real!!)

Hopefully it's reader interest and not just speculation interest.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Mon May 18, 2015 9:33:14 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
agent_graves wrote:241 VAL Divinity (2015) 3 9,582 +198 from issue #2 +2.11% (The Interest Is Real!!)

Hopefully it's reader interest and not just speculation interest.

I think it's genuine reader interest, it's a hot book, with a low print run, no movie was announced, based off this mini. The first issue is now going into it's 5th printing, the second print might of been ready to go from jump, but prints 3,4 & 5, shows interest on the retail level, for sure.

drmirage · Post by **drmirage** » Mon May 18, 2015 9:36:23 pm

Ramses818 wrote:Very informative. Thank you. I am going to spend some time pouring over this.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Mon May 18, 2015 9:55:15 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
agent_graves wrote:241 VAL Divinity (2015) 3 9,582 +198 from issue #2 +2.11% (The Interest Is Real!!)

Hopefully it's reader interest and not just speculation interest.

If Valiant had 1/10th of the speculation interest of Marvel, they'd be 3% of the market. But Readers > temporary sales boosts, to be sure.

cray_ws · Post by **cray_ws** » Tue May 19, 2015 4:33:07 am

jmatt wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:
agent_graves wrote:241 VAL Divinity (2015) 3 9,582 +198 from issue #2 +2.11% (The Interest Is Real!!)

Hopefully it's reader interest and not just speculation interest.
If Valiant had 1/10th of the speculation interest of Marvel, they'd be 3% of the market. But Readers > temporary sales boosts, to be sure.

Are you even reading the same forums as me? There's barely a thread on this forum about the content of the books themselves. Instead it's there's a lot of threads about low print runs, variant covers, and graded books. This forum is disturbingly collectivistic and nobody seems to be bothered by it. Valiant wouldn't even have the sales numbers without these gross variants. I guess I should be thanking this board but lately I'm not feeling the direction of where Valiant marketing is heading.

Sadly I think I'm on the verge of quitting Valiant books just as quickly as I began only a few months ago. I'm going see how this summer event plays out, after that I'll make my decision. I hope the actual stories can hold my interest. I might just drastically cut back on their offerings.

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