The Valiant #1 Sells Out Of 22,000 First Print Run

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:10:37 pm

bygranddesign wrote:True about Unity

I think it was 70K?

But it felt more like an Event than the 1st issue of a series. It would be very difficult to ever duplicate that again.

I think for Ninjak, Rai is a good, realistic sales target to aim for.

Unity also had a stupid/ridiculous/plethora* amount of variants too, don't forget.

*delete according to perspective.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:11:52 pm

Still, good news, but still while that that self-imposed limit is in place, I wonder that VEI will struggle to make as much hay as they could of the back of these things. And a definite improvement sales-wise over other recent VEI mini series, right?

jkingman · Post by **jkingman** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:32:55 pm

My LCS ordered two extra copies...and this week, there were two copies on the shelf. I am tempted to buy them, I only grabbed one copy, have a few variants ordered too. But I also want to leave them on the shelf in case a new reader checks it out. So I think I'll wait until after issue 2 is out.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:58:36 am

jkingman wrote:My LCS ordered two extra copies...and this week, there were two copies on the shelf. I am tempted to buy them, I only grabbed one copy, have a few variants ordered too. But I also want to leave them on the shelf in case a new reader checks it out. So I think I'll wait until after issue 2 is out.

My shop generally orders *very* light on Valiant now, and usually doesn't even get shelf copies.

Someone else at my shop ordered the 1:20 Lemire/Kindt variant for #1, which thankfully put a number of extra copies on the rack. I'm thinking of doing a mini-Free View & buying up any remainders after Christmas, to give right back to the store as free hand outs.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:01:53 am

*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:12:09 pm

grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.

Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:35:39 pm

lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.

Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.

nscc · Post by **nscc** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:17:13 am

grendeljd wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.
Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.

That's what the local guy did around here (I still get my comics from Ed, but was in buddy's shop with a friend)

Comics are all +15% since he says he pays in USD and quite a bit for shipping too.

Then, there is 15% tax on top (our normal tax rate in Nova scotia...) so every VEI comic from him is 5.29 Canadian!

I had mentioned about Variants to him before going with Ed, and he came with very similar, about $40 for a 1:20... said he didn't have the space or the buyers for them so any variants ordered have to come close to paying for the extra comics.

Comics are a very small part of his shop, its mostly Magic cards. While we were in there, I checked out what he had, and no VEI on the shelf, and maybe 1-2 copies of top 20 marvel/dc from the last few months.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:49:59 pm

grendeljd wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.
Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.

Pretty soon you should receive a $10 US Valiant for the low-low price of free.

jkingman · Post by **jkingman** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:07:29 pm

does anyone know the print run for The Valiant #4?

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:20:45 pm

david_albuq wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.
Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.
Pretty soon you should receive a $10 US Valiant for the low-low price of free.

Can't wait to see it, I'll let ya know when it arrives dude!

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:23:51 pm

nscc wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.
Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.
That's what the local guy did around here (I still get my comics from Ed, but was in buddy's shop with a friend)

Comics are all +15% since he says he pays in USD and quite a bit for shipping too.

Then, there is 15% tax on top (our normal tax rate in Nova scotia...) so every VEI comic from him is 5.29 Canadian!

I had mentioned about Variants to him before going with Ed, and he came with very similar, about $40 for a 1:20... said he didn't have the space or the buyers for them so any variants ordered have to come close to paying for the extra comics.

Comics are a very small part of his shop, its mostly Magic cards. While we were in there, I checked out what he had, and no VEI on the shelf, and maybe 1-2 copies of top 20 marvel/dc from the last few months.

No wonder you go with Ed, man!!

Taxes in (13% in Ontario), I'm at $4.96 per Valiant issue now with that little recent increase.

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:47:40 pm

jkingman wrote:does anyone know the print run for The Valiant #4?

No one knows the print run for The Valiant #2.

hawkeyeps · Post by **hawkeyeps** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:31:55 am

grendeljd wrote:
nscc wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:*I generally want to order higher ratio Valiant variants when I can (if I like the art, too) to help get more copies on the shelf, but for the most part I can't afford to anymore, especially since my shop charges as much as $35 for 1:20's to cover the loss he anticipates in not selling books.
Do Canadian shops pay more for books? 20 copies at $2 each (wholesale) =$40. He can't sale any of those 19 other copies? (Not to mention, you probably would bone regular copy.) That's BS.
Yeah, I dunno.

Maybe someone else has already ordered a 1:20 variant, so he'd be in it for 40 copies if I get one... And yeah, I think they probably pay a little more than $2 per book.

Last week my LCS also raised the cover prices by 10% over the US price, that's the first time in many many years since it was different. So it's $4.40 per Valiant comic for me now.
That's what the local guy did around here (I still get my comics from Ed, but was in buddy's shop with a friend)

Comics are all +15% since he says he pays in USD and quite a bit for shipping too.

Then, there is 15% tax on top (our normal tax rate in Nova scotia...) so every VEI comic from him is 5.29 Canadian!

I had mentioned about Variants to him before going with Ed, and he came with very similar, about $40 for a 1:20... said he didn't have the space or the buyers for them so any variants ordered have to come close to paying for the extra comics.

Comics are a very small part of his shop, its mostly Magic cards. While we were in there, I checked out what he had, and no VEI on the shelf, and maybe 1-2 copies of top 20 marvel/dc from the last few months.
No wonder you go with Ed, man!!

Taxes in (13% in Ontario), I'm at $4.96 per Valiant issue now with that little recent increase.

My guy charges me $4 Canadian straight up no juice! We don't have PST here yet, but I'll have my pitchfork and torch ready if they do consider it. If I go to other shops it's cover + gst (5%) + exchange rate (around 15% thanks Saudis...dicks)

drmirage · Post by **drmirage** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:59:48 am

Comics in general are a luxury @ $4 an issue 5-10 mins. I'm so waiting for another humble bundle. The last one was a great deal.

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hawkeyeps wrote: My guy charges me $4 Canadian straight up no juice! We don't have PST here yet, but I'll have my pitchfork and torch ready if they do consider it. If I go to other shops it's cover + gst (5%) + exchange rate (around 15% thanks Saudis...dicks)

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:42:28 am

drmirage wrote:Comics in general are a luxury @ $4 an issue 5-10 mins. I'm so waiting for another humble bundle. The last one was a great deal.

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hawkeyeps wrote: My guy charges me $4 Canadian straight up no juice! We don't have PST here yet, but I'll have my pitchfork and torch ready if they do consider it. If I go to other shops it's cover + gst (5%) + exchange rate (around 15% thanks Saudis...dicks)

What gives with the counting? You're not bowing out too, are you?

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:31:25 am

That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:31:47 pm

bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508

Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:41:12 pm

grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...

Yeah, sorry for the bad news

But i figure 100K is a good time to bow out.

Although, in a couple of decades if we develop the means to upload our minds to a computer mainframe .. I might have to amend this.

nscc · Post by **nscc** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:54:12 pm

bygranddesign wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...
Yeah, sorry for the bad news

But i figure 100K is a good time to bow out.

Although, in a couple of decades if we develop the means to upload our minds to a computer mainframe .. I might have to amend this.

What do you mean if? You never got an invitation to join the LiveWire™ program from VEI?

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:29:02 pm

grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...

No worries. You'll always have me! I'm never leaving.

drmirage · Post by **drmirage** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:01:23 pm

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lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...
No worries. You'll always have me! I'm never leaving.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:47:55 pm

nscc wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...
Yeah, sorry for the bad news

But i figure 100K is a good time to bow out.

Although, in a couple of decades if we develop the means to upload our minds to a computer mainframe .. I might have to amend this.
What do you mean if? You never got an invitation to join the LiveWire™ program from VEI?

Hmmm - someone made a mistake there. It's just Dunlow who isn't supposed to know about that...

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:49:53 pm

lorddunlow wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...
No worries. You'll always have me! I'm never leaving.

Just like that bad smell...

You may never leave... But one day the rest of us may not be here anymore... (Shhh, don't anybody tell him about the Livewire thing!!)

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:09:09 am

nscc wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:That would suck if Elery left also

Here is my countdown if anyone cares

97508
Oh no!!! Not you too, BGD! I'm not looking forward to that distant day when you leave... In a couple decades...
Yeah, sorry for the bad news

But i figure 100K is a good time to bow out.

Although, in a couple of decades if we develop the means to upload our minds to a computer mainframe .. I might have to amend this.
What do you mean if? You never got an invitation to join the LiveWire™ program from VEI?

it must have got lost in the mail

Damn Mailman just ruined my chance at immortality

No Christmas card for him this year

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