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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:38 am 
A toast to the return of Valiant!
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This is one of my favorite images released so far and inasmuch as I love VH-1 Shadowman, I liked VH-3 Shadowman better because it was darker and grittier and that's what I want to see.
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I lean towards the VH3 version as well, but I'm not really fond of that particular drawing. Hopefully it's a very rough sketch.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:46 am 
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yah, it's cool. just a sketch.
I'm happy enough to make it my avatar.
things can only get better!


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:51 am 
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I'm just not digging the shirt and tie and trench coat look. Where's the fedora? That's just not Shadowman.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:04 am 
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I dunno I can see it working. I like the Day of the Dead mask. I don't mind the Constantine threads. Lets face it Shadowman is going to have to be updated just like the rest of the Valiant Universe. As much as I would rather go back in time to Bob Hall's awesome Shadowman, you can't put him back into a leather biker jacket and boots, it would never sell.

Fedora? :hm: nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:14 am 
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Heath wrote:
I'm just not digging the shirt and tie and trench coat look. Where's the fedora? That's just not Shadowman.


Not feelin' the Valiant "come as you are" approach to superhero haberdashery? :P


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:18 am 
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I can understand a wardrobe update. But it has to have the energy of the original. And there is nothing energetic about that tumblr image. I don't want dark and gritty Shadowman. Acclaim did that and it sucked.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:10 pm 
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The mask reminds we of Shadowman but the suit, tie and trench coat remind me of the updated Ivar. Would they have two characters with such similar looks? Could this be Ivar? The "Good Night" suggests Shadowman but wouldn't think they'd want two characters to look so similar.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:58 pm 
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Actually I always thought Shadowman WAS "dark and gritty". New Orleans. Jazz musician. Dark arts and mysticism. Voodoo Loa. His origin is in a failed murder attempt on his life. He starts as crony of Darque! Storylines are gonna be even grittier in a post-Katrina N'awlins


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:21 pm 
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Unlike the other photos fromt the tumblr teases that showed "completed products" like the top of the Harada QR cover or the blacked out and partial Rai image that was just released, the "Shadowman" image seemed much more of a rough sketch. Like something Aja (or another artist) did just to put a Shadowman tease out there. It's entirely possible the design has evolved since then, or that Ivar was designed later and that may now impact the design for Shadowman.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:49 pm 
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Does anyone really want to wear a trench coat in New Orleans!?! :screwy: Shadowman in a post-Katrina New Orleans could make some really interesting stories.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Does anyone really want to wear a trench coat in New Orleans!?! :screwy: Shadowman in a post-Katrina New Orleans could make some really interesting stories.


I saw a woman wearing a trench coat in Lafayette once.

But then, it was Mardi Gras and she wasn't wearing anything under it...

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:26 pm 
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Seems he might be down & out, homeless. When that happens, a trench coat is your bed, blanket and shelter and being out on the street like that you learn to carry all your belongings with you.

We're just speculating on a rough sketch. I have no real idea where this series will go. Let's leave it at: SHADOWMAN will be back!! and wait for more details to emerge.

PEACE & GOOD VIBES! :thumb:


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Seems he might be down & out, homeless.

Interesting comment... since playing a saxophone in New Orleans could be a "profession" for a homeless person. :hm:
You'd be out all night, watching the city... basically Rorschach and Batman. :hm: :hm:


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:27 pm 
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greg wrote:
PFunkJAzz wrote:
Seems he might be down & out, homeless.

Interesting comment... since playing a saxophone in New Orleans could be a "profession" for a homeless person. :hm:
You'd be out all night, watching the city... basically Rorschach and Batman. :hm: :hm:



:hm: Hmmmmmmmm

A homeless guy who plays the sax, watches the city and is a combination of Rorschach and Batman who finds a mask on the street after Mardi Gras celebrations and decides to be the city's protector ...

Is it just me or does it look like there is some red on his shirt, almost like blood or something? to the left of the knot in his tie


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:32 pm 
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It's about *SQUEE* time this picture got some discussion, it's been up 2 months, and hardly anyone has said *SQUEE* about it. :clap:

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:46 pm 
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PFunkJAzz wrote:
Actually I always thought Shadowman WAS "dark and gritty". New Orleans. Jazz musician. Dark arts and mysticism. Voodoo Loa. His origin is in a failed murder attempt on his life. He starts as crony of Darque! Storylines are gonna be even grittier in a post-Katrina N'awlins


I think Heath is referring to the Ennis version where things do get way too dark and bizarre. When you start off a reboot by killing off the previous hero and sticking his sax "where the sun don't shine"... well, you know it's going to be a weird series....


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I think y'all are missing the greatest potential of Ninjak: Nobody seems to like him. Because of that, Valiant can take all kind of liberties with him and no one will care. :thumb:


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:59 pm 
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I think y'all are missing the greatest potential of Ninjak: Nobody seems to like him. Because of that, Valiant can take all kind of liberties with him and no one will care. :thumb:


i like Ninjak!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:03 pm 
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Awesome news about Shadowman! One of my favorites!!

The only thing I'm not too excited about is Ninjak. The character and book never interested me. I would much rather see Hard Corps return, but I will of course give the book a chance.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:09 pm 
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greg wrote:
PFunkJAzz wrote:
Seems he might be down & out, homeless.

Interesting comment... since playing a saxophone in New Orleans could be a "profession" for a homeless person. :hm:
You'd be out all night, watching the city... basically Rorschach and Batman. :hm: :hm:

I love your ideas guys!


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:14 pm 
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cool shadowman ideas! As far as Ninjak, I feel like he's a totally untapped character like Time Walker, they have so much potential to be great, all it takes is a fresh start and great creativity. His look was always cool, just the reading that sucked.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Spagg wrote:
Awesome news about Shadowman! One of my favorites!!

The only thing I'm not too excited about is Ninjak. The character and book never interested me.


My opinion: Ninjak should have never been old guard British heritage. Got my anti-imperialist blood boiling! Clearly he should have been Asian, but that would have just run up against Rai. I'm a sucker for anything with Asian chix and katanas (Aspen's EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT series and Image's new EPIC KILL mini), I'd love to see Ninjak rebooted in this manner!

I kinda dug the neo-hippie vibe of Geomancer, but that didn't get much bounce. Maybe as a secondary character?


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Asian and white would be cool Bruce Lee had German heritige for example.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:53 pm 
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PFunkJAzz wrote:
Spagg wrote:
Awesome news about Shadowman! One of my favorites!!

The only thing I'm not too excited about is Ninjak. The character and book never interested me.


My opinion: Ninjak should have never been old guard British heritage. Got my anti-imperialist blood boiling! Clearly he should have been Asian, but that would have just run up against Rai. I'm a sucker for anything with Asian chix and katanas (Aspen's EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT series and Image's new EPIC KILL mini), I'd love to see Ninjak rebooted in this manner!

I kinda dug the neo-hippie vibe of Geomancer, but that didn't get much bounce. Maybe as a secondary character?


NinJill? :?

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Too much talk of Ninjerk.

Need moar ShadowMan.

Ninjerk sucked balls at his best.

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