Mapping out VH1 here...

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:53:25 pm

Thanks for the support, guys!! Im excited as well. Of course, I hope I did everything right on this first order, if not, then its not a big deal, I'll learn as I go

Next books to send in will be A&A and Geomancer, I think

I feel as though those book maps are pretty solid.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:05:07 pm

Steve,

The X-O books that you sent out. Did you use the Map that you posted earlier in the thread?

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:59:55 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:Steve,

The X-O books that you sent out. Did you use the Map that you posted earlier in the thread?

Yep, that's what got me to map it out. I think there might be one crossover I missed with Solar 19. But I can't remember off the top of my head.

Page-wise, the books break out:
Book 1 - 860 pages
Book 2 - 892 pages
Book 3 - 956 pages
Book 4 - 900 pages (the VH-2 book for those that want to skip this one)

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:25:07 am

I added the note regarding the Solar x-over. Ill investigate it further when I get the time.. or if someone else finds it, let us know.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:10:58 am

Steve Topper wrote:I've bound 28 sets of Valiant books so far and actually love them more than just having them sit in my long boxes.

Wow! Those volumes are incredible—I’m impressed.

Thanks for the additional info and posting those pics.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:05:57 pm

Now you know what drives us

Be careful you dont get sucked into the Hive-Mind

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:47:00 pm

Deathmate update..

Does this look right? I just went off of this site. Ive not read through it in a long time LOL

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:57:58 pm

I was looking through my own maps for VH2 Shadowman
and I plan on doing a slightly differnt path then Steve
It will be four books.
2 Vh1
1-23 & 24-43

2 Vh2
V2 1-20

V3 1-6/Deadside 1-3

I figure it will be a slim book but it seems to make sense as the plot of V3 has nothing to do with V2, save for Mike LeRoi. Just a thought.

Oh my Magnus Vh1 has become 4 books instead of 3.

Book 1:0-20
Book 2:21-29, Rai 15, 30, R 16, 31-35, Rai 20, 36, Rai 21, 37, Rai 22
Book 3:38-42,CE Epilogue 1-2, 43-54
Book 4:55-64, YB, Predator/Magnus 1-2, Magnus/Nexus 1-2, Vintage Magnus 1-4, Original Magnus

Book 5: VH2 1-18

-Neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:05:28 pm

Any takers on Bloodshot?

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:49:50 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:Any takers on Bloodshot?

Steve sent me this one a while ago

Bloodshot
Book 1:0-18
Book 2:19-27,secret weapons 20, 28, secret weapons 21, 29-34
Book 3:35-51,Yearbook, Last Shot
Book 4:VH2 1-16

-Neil

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:46:08 am

Instead of using early issues, can they bind pages from trades?

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:58:51 am

I was considering this but haven't put too much thought into it.

Ive sent in my Visitor and Armorines books to be bound. I sent them in several weeks ago and haven't received them back yet. One I receive them back Ill make adjustments to how I order. I figured these two would be two I could replace if I really needed to.

Ill need to call them today and see where my books are. Im itching to send two or three more books in to be bound.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:49:36 am

Phantom wrote:Instead of using early issues, can they bind pages from trades?

They can, you just have to use a hair dryer to heat up the glue on the spine. Then carefully pull the cover off the books. Then using the hair dryer heat up the glue enough to cut an peel the glue off the pages. This process can also be used for perfect bound books, such as Deathmate.

I plan on doing that for my Rai book as I would rather use the trade as opposed to 3 & 4.

Brian, about your books, I heard LBC is getting a deluge of orders but they should be getting back up to speed quickly so hopefully you will see them sooner than later. I have 8 books in the process of being bound right now, so I will let you know when I get them back.

-neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:24:50 am

Hey, I might consider doing that hair drying technique

So YOU are the reason why I havent received my books yet

What did you mean by a Deathmate 'Perfect' book?

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:25:59 am

Steve Topper wrote:
sanman wrote: How are you going about binding these in the fist place? I am imagining sorted comic runs punched with holes and kept in three ring binders...

Also, would any of you mind posting a pic of what your bound volumes look like?
I've bound 28 sets of Valiant books so far and actually love them more than just having them sit in my long boxes.

I don't have a recent picture of my shelf with my three bound Solar books. I also have X-O Manowar and Trinity Angels out for binding as well.

This is a look at the largest (thickest) book of my collection the 1032 page Archer & Armstrong volume.

Wow those pics are beautiful. What did you right on the inside of the dust jacket?

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:51:34 pm

IanAlexavier wrote: So YOU are the reason why I havent received my books yet

What did you mean by a Deathmate 'Perfect' book?

Another comic fan who lives in my area has 10-12 with them right now, so people are getting a lot in, must be rebate time.

Perfect bound, comics that do not have a staple in it tend to be perfect bound.

Its when the book is sealed to the cover using glue aka Prestige Format.
Deathmate:Blue, Yellow, Black, and Red are all examples of this.

-neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:09:52 pm

Ah ok, I understand now. This is why a binding company takes the staples out so that they can glue them.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:41:30 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:Ah ok, I understand now. This is why a binding company takes the staples out so that they can glue them.

Actually with hardcovers they sew them together. Its why there is a small amound of gutter loss, as the pages near the center cannot spread out as much.

-neil

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:16:53 pm

JustCallMeAric wrote: Wow those pics are beautiful. What did you right on the inside of the dust jacket?

Front flap, I put a brief character synopsis. For example, my upcoming X-O Manowar books will have the following text --

"Aric of Dacia was a Visigoth barbarian born into the strife and war of the 5th century A.D. and where Rome is the center of power and have subjugated his people. A young Aric watched as Romans soldiers first slaughtered his mother and then, his father. He dedicated his life to destroying the Roman oppressors, riding into battle with his uncle Alaric I. Little did he know, he was destined to become one of the greatest warriors of any era.

Some years later Aric took a Celtic slave, Deidre, to be his consort. He grew content with her, even taking to worshiping her god, Lugh, but shortly thereafter, things took a most unusual turn. On an evening’s ride, he came across a grisly scene. Demons of some sort were feeding upon his people. Heedless of the consequences, Aric strode forward to do
battle with the strange creatures but was quickly subdued and taken aboard their alien spacecraft.

For some seven years Aric was held prisoner aboard their craft serving in its foul slave pens. At a refueling station several light-years from
Earth, he befriended a man known as the "Map Giver". The "Map Giver" used a discarded bone shard to carve a map into Aric’s palm, which
would lead the barbarian to the aliens' greatest weapon. Aric fought his way to the X-O Manowar class armor and donned the control ring. With
this living armor he was able to blast his way through the hull of the alien ship and return to the Earth he still believed was his home.

The time dilation effect of near light speed travel on the alien spacecraft meant that while only a few years had passed on board, sixteen centuries
had come and gone on Earth. Everything Aric had ever known was gone – replaced by "modern" civilization. He is now the most primitive man on
the planet, yet he wields the most technologically advanced weapon in existence."

Back flap, I list the comics that are included in that particular volume along with the month and date of publishing.

I've tried to find decent summary write-ups either in magazines or on the web and plagiarized them for my dust jackets.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:10:08 am

Steve,
I saw on the other boards you are planning a Magnus book next,
I would really like to see your Map specifically the Maleev war issues.

I have changed my thinking on that book multiple times and while I am somewhat happy with the map I did involving 4 books, I think of having a full on combined Maleev war book for Magnus and Rai would be cool.

So its tricky.

thanks

-Neil

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:16:12 pm

Neil,
I haven't completely mapped out the Magnus volumes yet. I was waiting to get my last shipment in before tackling that project.

Roughly, my plans are to bind the Malev war in its entirety in both the Magnus and Rai books -- so I'm going to need duplicates of that storyline. I have some already, but as I said, I don't have it settled yet.

I'll probably put those runs together when I get back from NYCC.

Steve

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:49:49 pm

About how many issues would that add to each book?
Let me know and I will add that to the initial post where I've listed the specifics of each title and book.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:54:12 pm

Flipping through my set of Timewalker books, specifically issue #0.. there is some interaction with the Hard Corps.. does this belong in the Hard Corps books too? Not sure..

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:40:43 am

I just got off the phone with Jeannett from LBC. She said my firt 2 books were finished and they are sending them out today. $57 later and hopefully I will be happy with them

Then I can send out a few more books!!

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:06:54 pm

I'd be willing to bet you're going to be happy.

Jeannette called me last week to let me know that my four volume X-O Manowar set and one volume Trinity Angels were ready and being shipped. They'll probably be at home tonight after work. I also included the eight-issue Doc Savage magazine (from Marvel) in this shipment. Total price with shipping was $132.00 for six books.

As a point of reference, it generally takes about four working days to get from Waco TX to SW Ohio. I would expect Michigan would be similar to Ohio. And I guess you'll have to change your profile location now that you've gotten some bound volumes finished

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