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So... Definitely Canadians.
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lorddunlow wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:12:26 am
So... Definitely Canadians.
I mean, can anyone prove it wasn’t Canadians? Didn’t think so.

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Blood of Heroes wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47:28 am
lorddunlow wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:12:26 am
So... Definitely Canadians.
I mean, can anyone prove it wasn’t Canadians? Didn’t think so.
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so shooter chimes in and all we get are peanut gallery comments? isnt this a valiant comics board?😀

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Re-read through this thread and think this is the result of someone misusing the word "counterfeit" when they meant something different.
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valiantdude wrote:
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so shooter chimes in and all we get are peanut gallery comments? isnt this a valiant comics board?😀
Is there any new news? Did Shooter talk about these counterfeit books with Mike Baron?

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From the man himself, Jim Shooter:
Jim Shooter, the man himself wrote: Valiantdude is lame. He definitely likes Canadians more than real Americans. He probably eats babies. He has an inordinate amount of interest in greg's holes. Ask Fred. Or Jim... Wait. I'm Jim. Nevermind.




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valiantdude wrote:
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isnt this a valiant comics board?😀

I thought we were an autonomous collective

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just sayin, a long time ago jim shooter adding to this story wouldve meant something.. ah well.. the whole thing if fading.. why the hell have i been posting here for 20 years? idk

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valiantdude wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:46:05 pm
just sayin, a long time ago jim shooter adding to this story wouldve meant something.. ah well.. the whole thing if fading.. why the hell have i been posting here for 20 years? idk
What was it that he added? To ask Fred?

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i love they live-- who knew back then it was a true story..
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open

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valiantdude wrote:
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well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
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"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.

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perhaps, it depends on how you define counterfiets..
however, there were never missing books from orders, which was your main argument.

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valiantdude wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:01:34 pm
perhaps, it depends on how you define counterfiets..
however, there were never missing books from orders, which was your main argument.
I would define a counterfeit book as one that was printed separately from the original print run; either published at a different time, by a different publisher, or both. The theory that the original publisher either printed too many books, failed to fulfill orders, or failed to destroy books that were supposed to be destroyed - all these meet that criteria and the counterfeit books theory holds water.

It is too bad that in most of those cases, the counterfeits would be all but impossible to tell apart from books legitimately purchased from the printer. Unless the miscut Rais are it… :hm:

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greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51:15 am
valiantdude wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34:57 pm
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
(translation)
"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.
The overprints are the counterfeits! All your holes just got blown wide open, greg.

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valiantdude wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:01:34 pm
perhaps, it depends on how you define counterfiets..
however, there were never missing books from orders, which was your main argument.
My main argument is that comic book collecting DOES have counterfeits, but Valiant does not.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 has counterfeits
Cerebus #1 has counterfeits
Cry For Dawn #1 has counterfeits

Not a single Valiant book has ever been identified as a counterfeit.

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Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:44:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51:15 am
valiantdude wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34:57 pm
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
(translation)
"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.
The overprints are the counterfeits! All your holes just got blown wide open, greg.
I know a woman who was so excited the day before her baby was born.
Unfortunately, it was identical twins. Surprise! Yep, she had a counterfeit baby.
She never told the second baby that he wasn't real, and she never actually knew which child was in the sonogram.
Maybe both twins will find out one of them must be counterfeit from a message board when they're 30.

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greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:19:26 pm
Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:44:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51:15 am
valiantdude wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34:57 pm
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
(translation)
"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.
The overprints are the counterfeits! All your holes just got blown wide open, greg.
I know a woman who was so excited the day before her baby was born.
Unfortunately, it was identical twins. Surprise! Yep, she had a counterfeit baby.
She never told the second baby that he wasn't real, and she never actually knew which child was in the sonogram.
Maybe both twins will find out one of them must be counterfeit from a message board when they're 30.
Yes, that is exactly how counterfeits work!

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Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:59:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:19:26 pm
Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:44:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51:15 am
valiantdude wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34:57 pm
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
(translation)
"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.
The overprints are the counterfeits! All your holes just got blown wide open, greg.
I know a woman who was so excited the day before her baby was born.
Unfortunately, it was identical twins. Surprise! Yep, she had a counterfeit baby.
She never told the second baby that he wasn't real, and she never actually knew which child was in the sonogram.
Maybe both twins will find out one of them must be counterfeit from a message board when they're 30.
Yes, that is exactly how counterfeits work!
Only one child was authorized, the second, identical, child came out of the same factory without proper prior approval. Sounds like our Valiant situation and we have been assured multiple times they are "counterfeit".

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greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:46:30 pm
Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:59:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:19:26 pm
Chiclo wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:44:49 pm
greg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51:15 am
valiantdude wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34:57 pm
well chiclo, he shot down all of gregs theories, pointed out the other possibilities, and still left the whole thing open
"...he shot down all of Greg's theories"
(translation)
"... he said the books were probably overprints indistinguishable from every other copy, not normal prints indistinguishable from every other copy."

There are no counterfeits.
The overprints are the counterfeits! All your holes just got blown wide open, greg.
I know a woman who was so excited the day before her baby was born.
Unfortunately, it was identical twins. Surprise! Yep, she had a counterfeit baby.
She never told the second baby that he wasn't real, and she never actually knew which child was in the sonogram.
Maybe both twins will find out one of them must be counterfeit from a message board when they're 30.
Yes, that is exactly how counterfeits work!
Only one child was authorized, the second, identical, child came out of the same factory without proper prior approval. Sounds like our Valiant situation and we have been assured multiple times they are "counterfeit".

Um, can Fred Pierce tell the babies apart?
Does, uh, Fred owe someone child support...?


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