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by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:16:46 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

But then you've created a scenario in which Alien has to choose between publishing a series about the VEI Ninjak or a series about the VH 1's Ninjak son, which is not quite the point of the exercise, which is to simply put a bow on the stories of the VH 1 iterations, not keep them going ad infinitu...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:15:34 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

But by your own account the original publisher dropped the series and it moved to a rival publisher. That would indicate that it wasn't the hit they hoped for. Not true. The Hasbro license switched from IDW to Image, due to IDW business troubles having nothing to do with GI Joe: ARAH. The fact that...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:07:01 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

But then you've created a scenario in which Alien has to choose between publishing a series about the VEI Ninjak or a series about the VH 1's Ninjak son, which is not quite the point of the exercise, which is to simply put a bow on the stories of the VH 1 iterations, not keep them going ad infinitu...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:06:20 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

I'm not quite sure the two are comparable on that point, though. Sure, no example will match Valiant exactly. It's just a recent example of how a 'dead' continuity from the 80's/90's can be revived and be successful in a niche way for the fans of that continuity side-by-side with a modern reboot. Q...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:05:39 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

Maybe, but I'm more interested in what makes narrative sense and makes the story satisfying than in what format is more commercially viable. Fair enough, we are talking about ideal scenarios here. However comic book publishing decisions are always constrained by the practicality of what is realisti...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:59:03 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

That's true. Even Secret Wars had several tie-ins. A closer comparison for what I'm talking about is the original Squadron Supreme series. 12 issues, the whole story is contained within the series, and shifts focus to many different characters and mini-stories while also telling an epic story. Even...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:50:35 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

Unlike IDW with GI Joe, I do doubt Alien can afford competing against itself by publishing more than one iteration of the VALIANT characters. They likely can't, nor shouldn't at this point, publish one comic with VEI X-O and one with VH1 X-O. It would divide an already divided and dwindling fanbase...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:49:36 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

With VALIANT, though, it would make sense to do bookend issues like Voyager did with Unity (#0 and #1) and Chaos Effect (Alpha and Omega) rather than a 12 issue event series. My ideal scenario would be as stated before, three, four-issue minis for each one of the original 18 series that deserve it ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:48:43 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

That's true. Even Secret Wars had several tie-ins. A closer comparison for what I'm talking about is the original Squadron Supreme series. 12 issues, the whole story is contained within the series, and shifts focus to many different characters and mini-stories while also telling an epic story. Even...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:21:11 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

Unlike IDW with GI Joe, I do doubt Alien can afford competing against itself by publishing more than one iteration of the VALIANT characters. They likely can't, nor shouldn't at this point, publish one comic with VEI X-O and one with VH1 X-O. It would divide an already divided and dwindling fanbase ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:44:11 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

That's true. There are a lot of different formats that would allow a long enough story to be told. I'm just saying I wouldn't be interested in a few one-shots or a single 4 issue mini like Q2. Commit to at least 12 issues, even if it was 12 one-shots, then I'd be more intrigued. Yeah, 18 one shots ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:57:32 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

I would, and intend to, buy it when it's something I can afford to do. Notice that I haven't tried to sell anyone on any actual content, just made a case for giving Alien a chance rather than outright trash them based on what DMG did or for not being Dinesh. Cool, I understand that. Just like I don...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:57:13 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

That's true. There are a lot of different formats that would allow a long enough story to be told. I'm just saying I wouldn't be interested in a few one-shots or a single 4 issue mini like Q2. Commit to at least 12 issues, even if it was 12 one-shots, then I'd be more intrigued. Yeah, 18 one shots ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:52:27 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

I would, and intend to, buy it when it's something I can afford to do. Notice that I haven't tried to sell anyone on any actual content, just made a case for giving Alien a chance rather than outright trash them based on what DMG did or for not being Dinesh. Cool, I understand that. Just like I don...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:42:28 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

I would, and intend to, buy it when it's something I can afford to do. Notice that I haven't tried to sell anyone on any actual content, just made a case for giving Alien a chance rather than outright trash them based on what DMG did or for not being Dinesh. Cool, I understand that. Just like I don...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:28:43 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

The cost is high, no doubt. I do wish Alien's comics were more affordable. I haven't read it, unfortunately. Haven't had the time or means to get back into comics lately, other than working on making my own. So you've been the top cheerleader and defender of all things Alien/Valiant on this forum, ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:13:11 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

The cost is high, no doubt. I do wish Alien's comics were more affordable. I haven't read it, unfortunately. Haven't had the time or means to get back into comics lately, other than working on making my own. So you've been the top cheerleader and defender of all things Alien/Valiant on this forum, ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:11:50 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

On ongoing would mean VH1 is back. At least in that series. Just like in GI Joe: ARAH the Marvel continuity was actually back, not just in a one shot or dream sequence. Real, new adventures of those characters in that universe. That's what I would want. Well, that's content, not format. There were ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:48:24 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

I do think that anything other than stories that wrap up VH 1 would fit the category of nostalgia money grab. They should be done but for no other reason than to tie up lose ends and wrap up the proper character and plot arcs. Give the original iteration a proper ending. I have the opposite opinion...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:47:17 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

The cost is high, no doubt. I do wish Alien's comics were more affordable. I haven't read it, unfortunately. Haven't had the time or means to get back into comics lately, other than working on making my own. So you've been the top cheerleader and defender of all things Alien/Valiant on this forum, ...
by ManofTheAtom
Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:57:08 am
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

1. Faith Returns: Didn’t read 2. Rai: Book of the Darque: Very good 3. Brittania: Great Fire of Rome:Very good 4. Livewire & Secret Weapons: Mediocre 5. Bloodshot Reloaded Unleashed: Nope 6. The Valiants: Ok first issue, hope it improves 7. XO Invictus: Decent, worth reading 8. Punk Mambo: Didn...
by ManofTheAtom
Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:18:58 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe
Replies: 85
Views: 2143

Re: Resurgence of the VALIANT Universe

1. Faith Returns: Didn’t read 2. Rai: Book of the Darque: Very good 3. Brittania: Great Fire of Rome:Very good 4. Livewire & Secret Weapons: Mediocre 5. Bloodshot Reloaded Unleashed: Nope 6. The Valiants: Ok first issue, hope it improves 7. XO Invictus: Decent, worth reading 8. Punk Mambo: Didn...
by ManofTheAtom
Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:16:33 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

It would be cool, but it should be done with Rai #0, VH-2, and VEI in mind (i.e., the stories should be building up to something). It really would be no different from Q2. Yeah definitely same type of thing as Q2. The main difference being a commitment to a 12 issue or ongoing series. To me, a 4 is...
by ManofTheAtom
Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:58:18 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

Ryan wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:53:26 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:40:08 am Ninjak vs Rai. The ninja and the samurai.
:hm: Would love to see that. Could be an early Rai (or maybe a precursor, like the original Rising Spirit was going to be) depending on the year this takes place.
Yeah.
by ManofTheAtom
Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:58:03 pm
Forum: General VALIANT Discussion
Topic: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0
Replies: 61
Views: 644

Re: VALIANT Heroes Whose Futures Were Not Shown in Rai #0

Regarding my idea for a 'VALIANT Classic' line that would consist of one comic per month that's set in the 90's VH1 continuity, there is a recent precedent for that idea working if you look at how IDW handled the G.I. Joe license. Most of the G.I. Joe series they produced were set in a modern, rebo...